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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27658

    Re: Stringer Trade Worth

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    He talked just a bit about his experience being traded in the last hour of the trade period. This might be me reading it wrong but he gave the impression it was a real haggle over picks and that we eventually buckled.

    Similar set of circumstances but I were Cooney the last thing I would be saying is "the Bulldogs couldn't wait to get me off the list and the moment they did they won a flag" You won a Brownlow Coons, not the Nobel prize for literature. We all know you could play footy but none of us were under the impression you were the brain of Britain mate.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • bulldogsthru&thru
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • May 2011
      • 7738

      Re: Stringer Trade Worth

      Devon Smith nominating bombers. How does that impact a trade with Stringer?

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: Stringer Trade Worth

        Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
        Devon Smith nominating bombers. How does that impact a trade with Stringer?
        I imagine them offering 29 and stuffing us around more, or offering 11 and demanding 26 back, now they've a back up plan.
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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 11204

          Re: Stringer Trade Worth

          ‘BAD BLOOD’ TO DELAY STRINGER DEAL

          Former Brownlow Medallist Adam Cooney believes ‘bad blood’ from previous trades between Essendon and the Western Bulldogs will delay the Jake Stringer deal.

          Cooney has strong knowledge of the trading styles of both clubs, having been traded from the Bulldogs to the Bombers late in his career.

          He had to wait until the final hour of the trade period for his deal to get done because the Bombers were arguing over a draft pick.

          With Essendon believed to be the front runners to land Stringer, Cooney expects the negotiations to be drawn out.

          “I believe that Essendon will get Jake Stringer but there is still a bit of water to go under the bridge in terms of what pick they will give up,” Cooney said on AFL Trade Radio.

          “They are being really stubborn on that first round pick.

          “(Essendon’s) pick 11 is not on the table at the moment. They are still in negotiations for that second round pick for Jake Stringer which they (Essendon) believe is fair given everything that has happened.

          “It is not a smooth process at the moment. There is a little bit of bad blood from previous trades with Essendon and the Western Bulldogs. I expect it to go really late.”

          Cooney said he believes that ultimately the Bombers will give up pick 29 for Stringer.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: Stringer Trade Worth

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            ‘BAD BLOOD’ TO DELAY STRINGER DEAL

            Former Brownlow Medallist Adam Cooney believes ‘bad blood’ from previous trades between Essendon and the Western Bulldogs will delay the Jake Stringer deal.

            Cooney has strong knowledge of the trading styles of both clubs, having been traded from the Bulldogs to the Bombers late in his career.

            He had to wait until the final hour of the trade period for his deal to get done because the Bombers were arguing over a draft pick.

            With Essendon believed to be the front runners to land Stringer, Cooney expects the negotiations to be drawn out.

            “I believe that Essendon will get Jake Stringer but there is still a bit of water to go under the bridge in terms of what pick they will give up,” Cooney said on AFL Trade Radio.

            “They are being really stubborn on that first round pick.

            “(Essendon’s) pick 11 is not on the table at the moment. They are still in negotiations for that second round pick for Jake Stringer which they (Essendon) believe is fair given everything that has happened.

            “It is not a smooth process at the moment. There is a little bit of bad blood from previous trades with Essendon and the Western Bulldogs. I expect it to go really late.”

            Cooney said he believes that ultimately the Bombers will give up pick 29 for Stringer.
            Take him off the table now.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • bulldogsthru&thru
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • May 2011
              • 7738

              Re: Stringer Trade Worth

              Don't think the cheats understand he is still contracted. Take him off the table and shut the door on them.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44718

                Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                If that's true, then Dedoro will think he can do it again, again. We need to mix it up either through your 'time clock' or my 'we are taking him off the table now' strategies. We just can't have valuable time in the trade window tied up with them.

                Agreed however, this is where Paul Connors can step in and place some pressure back on them. We know Stringer has some challenges at the moment but we can't get away from the facts that:

                Stinger is a contracted player and has AA and premiership honors
                Stringer will be a highly paid player so pick 28 doesn't measure up

                Essendon need to get creative or they will miss out. It could be Stringer and our pick 38 for pick 11 or it could be that Essendon trade pick 11 for something else and the offer back pick 14 or so but the onus is on them to be reasonable.

                I think Paul Connors will get that Essendon can't be that inflexible.
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                • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8971

                  Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                  As others have pointed out. The solution is set a deadline early in trade week and leave it clearly in Essendon's court to demonstrate their level of commitment to Jake. If their motivation to 'even some trade score vendetta' outweighs their level of commitment to Jake that should speak volumes to Jake alone and may make him more amenable to work with other clubs to find a new home.

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    Agreed however, this is where Paul Connors can step in and place some pressure back on them. We know Stringer has some challenges at the moment but we can't get away from the facts that:

                    Stinger is a contracted player and has AA and premiership honors
                    Stringer will be a highly paid player so pick 28 doesn't measure up

                    Essendon need to get creative or they will miss out. It could be Stringer and our pick 38 for pick 11 or it could be that Essendon trade pick 11 for something else and the offer back pick 14 or so but the onus is on them to be reasonable.

                    I think Paul Connors will get that Essendon can't be that inflexible.
                    That involves a hell of a lot of time though. Apparently the Hawks offer for Impey is better. If we want him, I'd rather JMac be working on that rather than listening to Dedoro vomit bullshit. Same with Crozier or anyone else that comes up. The closer it gets the firm I am that the strategy should be "he's off the table unless pick 11 or better in a straight trade, we have other things to do so only come to us with pick 11 or better and the paperwork for same" ("we don't negotiate with terrorists").
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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14983

                      Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                      Originally posted by Twodogs
                      What were the quotes?
                      Basically if we don't get a first round pick we won't trade Stringer, and J-Mac would look forward to working with Jake and his issues at the Bulldogs in 2018.

                      We may have just played this brilliantly - Geelong can't give us what we want, Essendon won't give us what we want. Abby's got her message out and Jake gets a huge public wake up call as to his place in the AFL world and a year of intense on-field scrutiny.
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                      • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8971

                        Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        Basically if we don't get a first round pick we won't trade Stringer, and J-Mac would look forward to working with Jake and his issues at the Bulldogs in 2018.

                        We may have just played this brilliantly - Geelong can't give us what we want, Essendon won't give us what we want. Abby's got her message out and Jake gets a huge public wake up call as to his place in the AFL world and a year of intense on-field scrutiny.
                        I think rather than opening up the option of Jake staying, i think things are positioning for either the club of Jake's choice to pony up a respectable offer, early on. If not that would tell Jake alot about the level of commitment his 'preferred choice' has in him. I think that would result in making Jake and his management open to other Melbourne based clubs.
                        I think its almost impossible Jake stays. The only way that happens is if no clubs in Melbourne make a realistic offer.

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                        • EasternWest
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10002

                          Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                          I don't see how Stringer stays at all.
                          "It's over. It's all over."

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                          • Bulldog4life
                            WOOF Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 9607

                            Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                            Originally posted by EasternWest
                            I don't see how Stringer stays at all.
                            I am of the opposite view. If I believe what Bevo and JMac have said....and I do. Stringer will be at the bulldogs next season unless we get a satisfactory trade. A trade in the 20's won't cut it

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                            • Axe Man
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 11204

                              Re: Stringer Trade Worth

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                              EXILED Western Bulldogs forward Jake Stringer is poised to nominate Essendon as his preferred new home.

                              In a major coup for the Bombers, Stringer is believed to be in the final stages of negotiations for contract terms to play in red and black in 2018 and beyond.

                              GWS jet Devon Smith has also chosen the Bombers, bolstering hopes of a second consecutive finals appearance next season.

                              Stringer is believed to be happy with the terms on offer at Essendon and has chosen John Worsfold’s men over Geelong.

                              However the Bulldogs and Bombers are set for a fortnight of tense trade negotiontions with the two clubs refusing to back down from their positions with the exchange period set to kick off on Monday.

                              Stringer’s manager Robbie D’Orazio is continuing talks with the Bombers today about a potential four-year deal.

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                                That's a nice theory or fantasy. Reality though ain't that easy.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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