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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: Stringer Trade Worth

    Originally posted by Sedat
    Plus all the player wages not actually in the cap and instead in the 'players compensation' column
    I had/have a thread on this two years ago. If they settle with players that may be outside the cap in theory, perhaps not actually though. Take Hurley, Heppell etc could officially be on $800,000, but conceivably 50% or more factoring into this. If Daniher made a different claim, on stress etc and settled, then he might not really be on $700,000. I'm telling ya, if the ATO checked taxes and declared income from players against club wages and scrutinised settlement agreements I don't believe the salary cap would be actually met in spirit and/or in law. I raised it here two years ago where media folk lurk and no one ever talked about it in the media, so I guess no one in the media wants to talk about it.

    As I said in that thread, if this is how business is now, I want all our long term injury players to sue the club, and coincidentally take a lower contract. At the rate we have LTIs, we can then throw massive cash around at trade time.
    Last edited by bulldogtragic; 05-10-2017, 08:05 PM. Reason: Typo
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44711

      Re: Stringer Trade Worth

      Just listening to Paul Connors and he appears to be leaning towards that Stringer will be at another club next year. He did say because he has a contract you can't rule it out but he does appear to have accepted that Stringer is going
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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: Stringer Trade Worth

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Just listening to Paul Connors and he appears to be leaning towards that Stringer will be at another club next year. He did say because he has a contract you can't rule it out but he does appear to have accepted that Stringer is going
        Best he help get Dodoro to offer up 11 quick.
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        • Mantis
          Hall of Fame
          • Apr 2007
          • 15472

          Re: Stringer Trade Worth

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Just listening to Paul Connors and he appears to be leaning towards that Stringer will be at another club next year. He did say because he has a contract you can't rule it out but he does appear to have accepted that Stringer is going
          I think that's the easy way out for Jake.

          It would take a man of significant character to admit he's at fault... which I don't think is in Jake's kit-bag, easier to walk away than swallow your pride.

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27658

            Re: Stringer Trade Worth

            Originally posted by Mantis
            I think that's the easy way out for Jake.

            It would take a man of significant character to admit he's at fault... which I don't think is in Jake's kit-bag, easier to walk away than swallow your pride.
            Agreed. Anyone can *!*!*!*! up. It takes a real man to admit your mistake and fix your life instead of trying to outrun your demons. They always catch up in the end.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • Rocco Jones
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jun 2008
              • 6932

              Re: Stringer Trade Worth

              Originally posted by Mantis
              I think that's the easy way out for Jake.

              It would take a man of significant character to admit he's at fault... which I don't think is in Jake's kit-bag, easier to walk away than swallow your pride.
              bl
              I think Jake says he is at fault but doesn't get it. He is the type of guy who apologises just to make 'being in trouble' stop but has no idea what he is apologising for, hence the apparent 'shock' when a relationship is broken.

              He is a man-child.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                Cats haven't given up on Stringer
                Reports suggest Jake Stringer is set to join Devon Smith and Adam Saad in nominating Essendon as his preferred landing spot, but Geelong remains in the race for the 2015 All Australian.

                The Cats' back-to-back best and fairest winner Patrick Dangerfield confirmed on Thursday night that he and captain Joel Selwood had met with Stringer this week.

                "It wasn't so much a sell," Dangerfield said.

                "It was just seeing where Jake was at and speaking about what we, as a club, could offer him and he's got a decision to make where he heads in his football.

                "We're a bit in the dark, as a few clubs are, about where he's headed. But whether he chooses us, I'm not sure."

                Afl.com.au
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                • Throughandthrough
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 3201

                  Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                  IMHO Geelong need Stringer more than Essendon do

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                  • The Bulldogs Bite
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 11271

                    Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                    Originally posted by Throughandthrough
                    IMHO Geelong need Stringer more than Essendon do
                    Geelong's strategy is odd.

                    Lose Motlop and Menzel who are in their prime, recruit Ablett who has 1 year left.

                    What are they trying to do? It's neither here nor there in terms of a rebuild/refresh or topping up.
                    W00F!

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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14342

                      Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                      Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                      Geelong's strategy is odd.

                      Lose Motlop and Menzel who are in their prime, recruit Ablett who has 1 year left.

                      What are they trying to do? It's neither here nor there in terms of a rebuild/refresh or topping up.
                      I agree and they have a 23 year old gun (admittedly has issues ) that has 10 years ahead of him they could get.
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13240

                        Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                        Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                        Geelong's strategy is odd.

                        Lose Motlop and Menzel who are in their prime, recruit Ablett who has 1 year left.

                        What are they trying to do? It's neither here nor there in terms of a rebuild/refresh or topping up.
                        Menzel gave far more to Geelong than Stringer did to us. I reckon there's someone pulling Scott's strings re. the Ablett acquisition. Geelong just can't help themselves when it comes to that name.
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                          This continues to be a rollercoaster ride, one day I want him gone the next I want him to stay. I hope that clubs undersell his real value so a deal can't be done and gives us the chance to show him we value him and want to work with him to sort all this out. But it would appear that it isn't just a coaching and list management choice but the players need to be on board to keep him in the fold.

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                          • jazzadogs
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 5665

                            Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                            I just tweeted this because it's been annoying me seeing the criticism of the club for the way they've handled this whole thing:

                            - the initial 'leak' from flog Barrett clearly did not come from the club, not least because nobody from the club would talk to Barrett. As far as I'm concerned that was Stringer or Connors. The club would clearly have preferred that conversation to remain private.
                            - Bevo clarified the club's position that a parting of the ways could be best for both parties, but the position was not and is not irretrievable. He did not elaborate on reasons or any details, but let's not forget how many people were calling for the club to clarify our position at the time.
                            - Connors putting him in front of the media at Trade Radio launch was a poorly conceived plan for a poor media performer, which highlighted how little awareness Jake actually has.
                            - Abby's article had nothing to do with the club, and as far as I'm concerned his adulterous behaviour should have no impact on his trade value. The gambling issues and refusal to accept help, different story.

                            I'm very glad to see that the Dogs are standing firm on their position of an early first round or he stays. Our position has not wavered and our message regarding Stringer has not wavered. All negative information about him has come from himself, his manager or his ex-partner.

                            Seeing "they devalued him when the coach went public" and "they kicked him out so they can't get anything good" etc is ridiculous. He's contracted and I don't think we're bluffing...its Essendons pick 11 or he stays.

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                            • Bulldog Joe
                              Premiership Moderator
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 5586

                              Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                              Originally posted by ledge
                              I agree and they have a 23 year old gun (admittedly has issues ) that has 10 years ahead of him they could get.
                              Unfortunately they have no trade assets to bargain with and they are committing those limited trade assets to procure the prodigal son.
                              Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                              • EasternWest
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10002

                                Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                                Have you achieved some kind of celebrity status if Adam Cooney calls you a dickhead on Twitter?
                                "It's over. It's all over."

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