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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: Stringer Trade Worth

    Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
    And now Saad apparently nominating essendon. How can they get them all in?
    It can only be salary cap cheating. It's not possible.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • ledge
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2007
      • 14342

      Re: Stringer Trade Worth

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      It can only be salary cap cheating. It's not possible.
      Or the media making it up.
      Bring back the biff

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      • Mofra
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2006
        • 14979

        Re: Stringer Trade Worth

        Jobe was on massive dollars, and the cap's just increased.
        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          Re: Stringer Trade Worth

          Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
          And now Saad apparently nominating essendon. How can they get them all in?
          Saad & 19 for 11 and change to GCS - 29 for Dev Smith and change

          Their Offer then Pick 19 for Stringer. They then say take it or leave it. We leave it or demand a player to be added (Begley, Ridley?), effectively two second rounders.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Doc26
            Coaching Staff
            • Sep 2009
            • 3087

            Re: Stringer Trade Worth

            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
            Saad & 19 for 11 and change to GCS - 29 for Dev Smith and change

            Their Offer then Pick 19 for Stringer. They then say take it or leave it. We leave it or demand a player to be added (Begley, Ridley?), effectively two second rounders.
            I can see the Bombers making this play although neither option should be acceptable to GCS or us.

            I'm concerned that in an endeavour to make the impossible work of negotiating in a reasonable and timely fashion with Essendon that it will very quickly become nothing more than a distraction for us from being creative with other opportunities / needs in the trade period.

            If there is indeed bad blood between our two Clubs, as reported, and with Jake's value arguably now at it lowest for us, we can have another 12 months to work with him or another 12 months to find a more friendly Club to deal with.

            We are talking about pretty exceptional circumstances that Jake's dealt with in the past 18 months and a past season where so many of his teammates performances were well off. He will turn this around with the right attitude and support, and I'm confident that with the water that has now gone under the bridge that it will be next year. If we are who we say we are, I say that we wrap our arms around Jake and guide him through it, that we all just have a bit more perseverance and dare I say it, empathy.

            Jake can nominate Essendon all he likes but if his Club of choice don't know yet whether they're prepared to put 11 on the table at a minimum for him I'd be happy to shut the door on them in the next 72 hours.

            And as for all this current media rubbish that we've forced him out, that it's irreversible, and that he's no where near worth a top 10 pick, as soon as the NAB Cup comes around and he slots 5 goals alongside Joey Daniher the whole talk will very soon shift to how Essendon's culture turned him around and how much of a steal Essendon got in the deal.

            Personally the idea of Essendon getting Jake from us regardless of the trade value is making my skin crawl.

            I would sit comfortably with JMac coming out in the next 72 hours and state that we won't deal with Essendon on Jake from this point on.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44711

              Re: Stringer Trade Worth

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Saad & 19 for 11 and change to GCS - 29 for Dev Smith and change

              Their Offer then Pick 19 for Stringer. They then say take it or leave it. We leave it or demand a player to be added (Begley, Ridley?), effectively two second rounders.
              GC would be getting ripped off there. That values Saad at about 400 points or about pick 40 and GC really does need players but would probably be tempted by early picks. They would need more than that
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                GC would be getting ripped off there. That values Saad at about 400 points or about pick 40 and GC really does need players but would probably be tempted by early picks. They would need more than that
                The ‘and change’ is shorthand for and something or someone else.

                My view is Dodoro would back us into folding at 19 plus a player. While they plunder the trade period.

                This is why Ive been saying for a week take him off the table. Our focus needs to be on other things.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 44711

                  Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  The ‘and change’ is shorthand for and something or someone else.

                  My view is Dodoro would back us into folding at 19 plus a player. While they plunder the trade period.

                  This is why Ive been saying for a week take him off the table. Our focus needs to be on other things.
                  If it was me, I'd be more than happy to open up a couple of spots on the list and chase Saad myself.

                  For another thread on another day but I'm over seeing the ball kicked backwards in back line and want us moving the ball forward quickly at every chance and Saad would help us a lot in that regard
                  Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • bulldogtragic
                    The List Manager
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 34289

                    Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    If it was me, I'd be more than happy to open up a couple of spots on the list and chase Saad myself.

                    For another thread on another day but I'm over seeing the ball kicked backwards in back line and want us moving the ball forward quickly at every chance and Saad would help us a lot in that regard
                    Surely Crammers would love it up there...
                    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27658

                      Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      That involves a hell of a lot of time though. Apparently the Hawks offer for Impey is better. If we want him, I'd rather JMac be working on that rather than listening to Dedoro vomit bullshit. Same with Crozier or anyone else that comes up. The closer it gets the firm I am that the strategy should be "he's off the table unless pick 11 or better in a straight trade, we have other things to do so only come to us with pick 11 or better and the paperwork for same" ("we don't negotiate with terrorists").


                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      Basically if we don't get a first round pick we won't trade Stringer, and J-Mac would look forward to working with Jake and his issues at the Bulldogs in 2018.

                      We may have just played this brilliantly - Geelong can't give us what we want, Essendon won't give us what we want. Abby's got her message out and Jake gets a huge public wake up call as to his place in the AFL world and a year of intense on-field scrutiny.
                      Yep. Pick 11 is our price, take it or leave it. We have to be prepared to walk away though.



                      Originally posted by Axe Man
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                      EXILED Western Bulldogs forward Jake Stringer is poised to nominate Essendon as his preferred new home.

                      In a major coup for the Bombers, Stringer is believed to be in the final stages of negotiations for contract terms to play in red and black in 2018 and beyond.

                      GWS jet Devon Smith has also chosen the Bombers, bolstering hopes of a second consecutive finals appearance next season.

                      Stringer is believed to be happy with the terms on offer at Essendon and has chosen John Worsfold’s men over Geelong.

                      However the Bulldogs and Bombers are set for a fortnight of tense trade negotiontions with the two clubs refusing to back down from their positions with the exchange period set to kick off on Monday.

                      Stringer’s manager Robbie D’Orazio is continuing talks with the Bombers today about a potential four-year deal.
                      Originally posted by Webby
                      Just heard a punter call in on SEN, asking the questions:

                      1. With Devon Smith also nominating Essendon, how do they get both Jake and Smith done?
                      2. How do Essendon afford all of these guys?
                      3. Surely something's up with their compo payouts not being included in the cap?

                      The SEN expert hosed it all down... "They'll find a way to get it done & everyone will walk away happy.." ( I nearly choked!)
                      To question two, he said "Sure, they've had to pay extras to hold onto (listed 5-6 players!), and then on question 3, said "Yeah, maybe, interesting one.."

                      There's always been a gap at Essendon between belief and reality... They've overstepped it once again..! Ga-ga land!!
                      I've been saying it since they re-signed Hurley with the Monopoly money they seem to have at Essendon. How are they signing and resigning and improving offers to players already on their list?

                      Originally posted by Webby
                      Oh and additionally, Dodoro's (predictably) offered pick 28.

                      Jake has discovered he's worth pick bugger all. He's also being offered less $$ than he's on with us. He's had a reality check. A straighten up. A penny drop. A foot up the arse. Public scorn and humiliation.

                      That means objective achieved. Arm around him from the club and he stays. Sorry Bombers. Sorry Cats.

                      That then leaves G Ablett. Cats can't and won't get him. Suns can't keep him. He's moving home, regardless and moving to the Greater Geelong area.

                      Is there a club located 45 mins from Geelong that is perched in Geelong Road??
                      Finally, if (a now wiser, enlightened, arse-kicked!) Jake stays, who would be better than Ablett for him to be told to watch' learn from, chat to etc..?
                      Just a thought..

                      I love your work Webby.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • ledge
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 14342

                        Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                        Someone just text into Sen saying they just chatted to Jake and no way is he coming back to the dogs, anonymous but was pretty solid about it.
                        Just after both commentators said they thought he would stay.
                        Bring back the biff

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                          Originally posted by ledge
                          Someone just text into Sen saying they just chatted to Jake and no way is he coming back to the dogs, anonymous but was pretty solid about it.
                          Just after both commentators said they thought he would stay.
                          ‘Gap year’
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • Axe Man
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11198

                            Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                            Originally posted by ledge
                            Someone just text into Sen saying they just chatted to Jake and no way is he coming back to the dogs, anonymous but was pretty solid about it.
                            Just after both commentators said they thought he would stay.
                            Anonymous = Dedoro?

                            The thing is it's not his choice. Is he really going to sit out of footy for a year if we don't deal? He would be even stupider than I thought if he does that.

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                            • Doc26
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 3087

                              Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              ‘Gap year’
                              and good way of stopping the tap for his alleged gambling addiction.

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                              • The Bulldogs Bite
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 11271

                                Re: Stringer Trade Worth

                                Wrong thread possibly - but is anyone else annoyed that Essendon appear to be a "destination club" with the likes of Saad, Smith and Stringer wanting to be traded there whilst we couldn't attract anyone after a Premiership last year and still seem to be struggling this season?

                                Annoyed that we haven't been after Saad and will be annoyed if Hawthorn win Impey's services over us.

                                What are we doing and why can't we attract talent without overpaying? The odd few like Trengove excluded.
                                W00F!

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