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  • mighty_west
    Coaching Staff
    • Feb 2008
    • 3411

    #76
    Originally posted by JanLorMill

    We can but I don’t think it works that well. 3 blokes that are relatively slow means rebounds quickly out if they aren’t marking it.
    Buku gave us very little last Thursday, his goal was probably not even a mark but given that Chol got one similar, we can’t complain.
    I do agree that the two key forwards work better than three (if all three spend the majority of time on ground up forward), well it has with our structure given they usually fly for the same ball, which i why i like to see one of those keys present further up the ground, taking grabs on the wing plus the majority of time with the three talls, one goes into the centre square bounce as a chop out or one on the pine which in effect leaves us with the two for possibly the majority of game time anyway.

    Especially with Darcy coming off a knee injury, i'd prefer he didn't contest in the ruck and just play forward which allows Buku to give Tim a break, Buku was a bit quiet, but then so was West and neither deserve to be dropped given their runs on the board and importance to our structure.

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    • Hotdog60
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Aug 2009
      • 5839

      #77
      Originally posted by Virgin-Dog
      Slightly off topic, but does anything know a way to watch repeats of the VFL game if we miss it live? I missed both the AFL and VFL last weekend, and would like to go back and watch both
      VFL Match Replay: Coburg v Footscray
      Don't piss off old people
      The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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      • Garbs_7
        Rookie List
        • Jan 2025
        • 116

        #78
        I think Darcy , Naughty and Buku can work. With one needing to spell TIm in the ruck and then with those three having their rest on the bench too, you aren't actually playing all 3 at the same time in the fwd line. I'm hoping with Darcy back, Naughty can get up the ground a bit more and play a roaming CHF giving a marking option coming out of the backline, and leaving Buku and Darcy as deeper options fwd.

        May mean we go back to the two talls down back (JOD and Lobb) with third tall being a Cleary, Coffield etc to allow the extra runner into the 22.

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        • Bumper Bulldogs
          Coaching Staff
          • Apr 2008
          • 2921

          #79
          Originally posted by mighty_west

          I do agree that the two key forwards work better than three (if all three spend the majority of time on ground up forward), well it has with our structure given they usually fly for the same ball, which i why i like to see one of those keys present further up the ground, taking grabs on the wing plus the majority of time with the three talls, one goes into the centre square bounce as a chop out or one on the pine which in effect leaves us with the two for possibly the majority of game time anyway.

          Especially with Darcy coming off a knee injury, i'd prefer he didn't contest in the ruck and just play forward which allows Buku to give Tim a break, Buku was a bit quiet, but then so was West and neither deserve to be dropped given their runs on the board and importance to our structure.
          I do think that Bwe go with the 3. Naughts plays the high half forward and hits the logos. This is when we have a great option to have the out let kick that provides a better than 70% result in our favour. Keep Darcy deep and just use Bulu to block and do the blocking work to free Sam up. Keep the like of VDM and Dolan at Sam’s feet.

          20 Goals no problem.
          BB.

          Looking forward - Naughton, Darcy and JUH. It will be the envy of everyone.

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          • Cmac1297
            Rookie List
            • Dec 2024
            • 54

            #80
            Originally posted by GVGjr

            I don't mind it but you are one running defender light on. We nearly always always play 7.
            We’ve had a midfielder rotating through one of the half back positions most the year haven’t we? Or at least starting at half back

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            • Rusty12
              Rookie List
              • Dec 2024
              • 495

              #81
              Not sure whether to quit this, as I had Gardner in the "Not in the mix" section all year, or continue for the same reason...........
              The game was lost Vs the Hawks at the selection table.

              Backs:
              Jones - Lobb - JOD - Freijah - JJ - Dale
              Outside:
              Williams - Harmes
              Inside:
              Libba - Bont - Richards
              Ruck:
              English
              Forwards:
              Naughton - Darcy - Sanders - Mennedy - West - VDM

              INT: Bramble - Trelor - Davidson - Dolan
              Sub: Poulter

              Bubble:
              Jaques - Busss - Coffield - Gallagher - Baker - Hynes - Duyrea - Garcia - Khamis
              Not in the Mix:
              Smith - Gardner - McNeil - Cleary - Lennedy
              Injured:
              Croft - Arty - Scott

              Ins: Jones - JJ - Poulter - Darcy
              Out: Gardner - Cleary - McNeil - Khamis


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              • SquirrelGrip
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2007
                • 1503

                #82
                Originally posted by Cmac1297

                We’ve had a midfielder rotating through one of the half back positions most the year haven’t we? Or at least starting at half back
                This has been really lazy analysis by commentators and so-called "experts". For the better part of a year now, we've frequently started a defender on the wing at centre bounces, with an extra mid coming in from the defensive side of the square. As soon as the ball is bounced, the defender on the wing goes straight to the their half back position and the extra mid stays mid. Our actual wing (e.g. Davidson) starts on the half forward line then takes their spot on the wing.

                This is constantly rotating and we almost never have the same set up at consecutive centre bounces. We also sometimes start a half back at half back. Bevo has discussed this at press conferences and talks about giving it "different angles". I'm not aware of any other club doing it to the same extent as us.
                "I'll give him a hug before the first bounce and then I'll run into my pack and give them orders to rip him apart."

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                • my plums
                  Rookie List
                  • Aug 2022
                  • 137

                  #83
                  Originally posted by SquirrelGrip

                  This has been really lazy analysis by commentators and so-called "experts". For the better part of a year now, we've frequently started a defender on the wing at centre bounces, with an extra mid coming in from the defensive side of the square. As soon as the ball is bounced, the defender on the wing goes straight to the their half back position and the extra mid stays mid. Our actual wing (e.g. Davidson) starts on the half forward line then takes their spot on the wing.

                  This is constantly rotating and we almost never have the same set up at consecutive centre bounces. We also sometimes start a half back at half back. Bevo has discussed this at press conferences and talks about giving it "different angles". I'm not aware of any other club doing it to the same extent as us.
                  It happened at the first bounce on Friday Night and Corn went with "Ed Richards showed no respect to Ginnivan there." or maybe his 'analysis' is just crap

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                  • lemmon
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 6500

                    #84
                    Originally posted by SquirrelGrip

                    This has been really lazy analysis by commentators and so-called "experts". For the better part of a year now, we've frequently started a defender on the wing at centre bounces, with an extra mid coming in from the defensive side of the square. As soon as the ball is bounced, the defender on the wing goes straight to the their half back position and the extra mid stays mid. Our actual wing (e.g. Davidson) starts on the half forward line then takes their spot on the wing.

                    This is constantly rotating and we almost never have the same set up at consecutive centre bounces. We also sometimes start a half back at half back. Bevo has discussed this at press conferences and talks about giving it "different angles". I'm not aware of any other club doing it to the same extent as us.
                    There were some comments on here that Libba played genuine half back in the second half against the Hawks. I couldn't really tell from TV if that was the case.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66067

                      #85
                      Originally posted by lemmon

                      There were some comments on here that Libba played genuine half back in the second half against the Hawks. I couldn't really tell from TV if that was the case.
                      I was at the game and yes he did.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • my plums
                        Rookie List
                        • Aug 2022
                        • 137

                        #86
                        Reckon we had too many mids last game

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                        • dukedog
                          WOOF Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 354

                          #87
                          Originally posted by JanLorMill
                          Ha.
                          Thats simply not true. They play different roles anyway.
                          Not gonna argue who plays what role. they can both play similar roles. I just think Naughton has been out of sorts and ive liked Buku's games. Maybe you could argue Naughton has been taking better defenders and is making Buku look better. Also. i'd be ok with playing all 3 in this game. Buku would be unlucky to miss.

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                          • Mantis
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 15315

                            #88
                            Originally posted by my plums

                            It happened at the first bounce on Friday Night and Corn went with "Ed Richards showed no respect to Ginnivan there." or maybe his 'analysis' is just crap
                            Who was accountable for Ginnivan in this situation?

                            Understand that a ''change over'' was occurring, but it hadn't properly occurred and Ginnivan was running into an open goal before we had our shit together.

                            And to your next point we did have too many mids playing, especially when at least one of them couldn't run... and one other has no flexibility in where he can play.

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                            • my plums
                              Rookie List
                              • Aug 2022
                              • 137

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Mantis

                              Who was accountable for Ginnivan in this situation?

                              Understand that a ''change over'' was occurring, but it hadn't properly occurred and Ginnivan was running into an open goal before we had our shit together.

                              And to your next point we did have too many mids playing, especially when at least one of them couldn't run... and one other has no flexibility in where he can play.
                              Yeah i dunno, I guess it was the starting winger who is supposed to roll back? But then again, it could've been a coaching move by the Hawks to exploit this. Just thought it was a little bit of shallow commentary from Corn.

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44262

                                #90
                                Who is going to the game this week?
                                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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