Always Right Match Committee R6 vs St Kilda 2025

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66724

    #16
    Originally posted by JanLorMill
    I think we need to move O’Donnell back because Jones looks older every game. Khamis is the one that would make room. Try him up forward? I thought we missed VDM yesterday, best of not much really.
    Both JOD and Naughton didn't touch the ball in the last quarter - either did JJ.

    I agree JOD is a better backman than a forward and perhaps should swap with Buku.
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    • doggies ftw
      Draftee
      • Dec 2013
      • 724

      #17
      Originally posted by azabob

      Players under consideration to be dropped due to performance are Hynes, Dolan, JJ, Harmes (inj).

      We may have to suck it up and keep playing JJ.

      Our back half is screaming out for run and carry with top end skills especially when Dale is tagged out of the game.

      Lobb, Jones, Khamis are at best 15m chip kickers, Bramble and Cleary are good kicks but when the pressure is on are prone to errors.

      Removing Richards and now Freijah from our HB line is messing with potentially the most important area of the ground.
      Harsh on Lobb, he’d be the best tall defender kick in the comp and is absolutely not a 15m chip kick. Agree with the overall sentiment though that removing Richards and Freijah is hurting our exit from defence. Don’t think we can play Buku on top of the two key defenders - hopefully Jacques can come on quickly and we should be able to find a good half back in the mid season draft you can pluck them from anywhere

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      • Go_Dogs
        Hall of Fame
        • Jan 2007
        • 10152

        #18
        B: Duryea, Jones, Bramble
        HB: Dale, Lobb, Fridge
        C: Williams, Libba, Davidson
        HF: Sanders, Naughton, LVD
        F: West, Darcy, McNeil
        R: English, Bont, Richards
        B: JJ, Kennedy, JOD, Hynes
        S: Cleary

        Feel like we need Duryea to help steady our defensive group. Fridge back but will play some midfield rotation too. Cleary as sub to cover JJ and Fridge moving into the mids rotation. Buku unlucky but want to prioritise run. roll

        Bont returns to save our midfield mix. All the usual players will help fill our rotations here.

        LVD straight back in if ready.

        Hynes gets a second week. Dolan gets a rest.

        JOD can play any number of roles as a utility. I know some want him back, or at least want him settled, but we need him to be a bit of a unicorn right now.

        Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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        • doggies ftw
          Draftee
          • Dec 2013
          • 724

          #19
          Honestly we need to be playing Arty Jones, he doesn’t contribute offensively outside of a few impactful possessions usually but at least he is elite defensively with his pressure, theres so many forwards in the side right now who aren’t doing anything offensively or defensively

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          • jazzadogs
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Oct 2008
            • 5645

            #20
            Originally posted by doggies ftw
            Honestly we need to be playing Arty Jones, he doesn’t contribute offensively outside of a few impactful possessions usually but at least he is elite defensively with his pressure, theres so many forwards in the side right now who aren’t doing anything offensively or defensively
            Is he though? Dolan hasn't been great but most of the time Arty is on the field he is ball watching, doesn't stick tackles, his pressure acts are statistically below average...

            They're unfortunately very similar players at the moment. I don't think it makes a difference having one or the other.

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            • Rocco Jones
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jun 2008
              • 6932

              #21
              Modern footy requires a crazy amount of running. In my view, you simply cannot carry kids who can't keep up. Well, not if winning is a priority. I think there's a huge difference in playing even guys like Baker who can at least keep up with the running. We might see the errors but reductively put, the other options can't keep up enough to even make it to tv screen view (well the last two have been interstate).

              There's really no such thing as playing on the bench anymore, everyone has to chip in with rotations. TOG% between players is very close and guys who can't run are picked out by the opposition.

              Anyways, long story short, playing Haynes + Dolan hurts. Dolan plays a role at least and looks ok as a sub. But there's a bloody quick tipping point in playing guys for development if you value winning.

              If available, I'd bring in Bont, Vanders and Baker
              Out I'd have Harmes, Haynes and Buku

              I'd rather we go a bit smaller down back, especially against the smaller/crafty Saints fwd line. I don't mind Buku but probably see him more as a back up/needs based. JOD can also swing back, with Bont splitting time fwd and mid in return.

              Doolan as sub.

              I get 'dropping' Hynes after one game looks bad but idk if it's as simple as omission = harsh. Not like he finds out opening the AFL app. We have two guys who can play fwd coming back in.

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              • Hotdog60
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Aug 2009
                • 5907

                #22
                And this is where the lop sided VFL fixture hurts in getting match fitness into either guys coming off injury or new guys finding their feet.
                Don't piss off old people
                The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66724

                  #23
                  Originally posted by jazzadogs

                  Is he though? Dolan hasn't been great but most of the time Arty is on the field he is ball watching, doesn't stick tackles, his pressure acts are statistically below average...

                  They're unfortunately very similar players at the moment. I don't think it makes a difference having one or the other.
                  I think Dolan is a better footballer than Arty
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                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • Rocco Jones
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6932

                    #24
                    I love Arty but good god. I think a lot of players are weighted on very different expectations. Seems like if Arty was able to get closer, he'd maybe make it obvious how poorly he was going. It's like a sweet spot for bagging from fans= competitive enough to consistently get near it + not being great. Fans go easier on players who aren't even able to get close enough to contest or ball.

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                    • jazzadogs
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 5645

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Bornadog

                      I think Dolan is a better footballer than Arty
                      His game yesterday of 11 touches, 1.1, 2 tackles was better than about 90% of Arty's AFL games.

                      Arty is fine, Dolan is fine - unfortunately for us, neither of them are currently game changers. Dolan projects to have that skillset in the future more than Arty does, imo.

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                      • doggies ftw
                        Draftee
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 724

                        #26
                        Originally posted by jazzadogs

                        Is he though? Dolan hasn't been great but most of the time Arty is on the field he is ball watching, doesn't stick tackles, his pressure acts are statistically below average...

                        They're unfortunately very similar players at the moment. I don't think it makes a difference having one or the other.
                        His pressure acts and tackles are way higher than any other forward we regularly play except Cody. If you’re just looking at ‘overall’ it’ll probably say below avg because he’s sub/subbed so much.

                        Dolan will be a much better player and I want him to stay in the side but he can’t run out a game, Arty has an elite tank and is at least running out games and pressuring. I’d have them both in especially whilst VDM is out.

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                        • Rusty12
                          Draftee
                          • Dec 2024
                          • 598

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Bornadog
                          Out:
                          Harmes injured

                          In:
                          The Bont

                          I would give Hynes one more game
                          Yep. Definitely in the camp. If you pick them, give them at least 3 games.

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                          • Rusty12
                            Draftee
                            • Dec 2024
                            • 598

                            #28
                            Originally posted by jazzadogs

                            His game yesterday of 11 touches, 1.1, 2 tackles was better than about 90% of Arty's AFL games.

                            Arty is fine, Dolan is fine - unfortunately for us, neither of them are currently game changers. Dolan projects to have that skillset in the future more than Arty does, imo.
                            Dolan was pretty good yesterday, did his job.
                            We have to wear him getting a little tired and maybe not impact as much with defensive running late in the game, and Im okay with that.

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                            • mighty_west
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3439

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Rusty12

                              Dolan was pretty good yesterday, did his job.
                              We have to wear him getting a little tired and maybe not impact as much with defensive running late in the game, and Im okay with that.
                              The fact the he played the majority of the game due to Harmes getting injured possibly start him as sub again?

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                              • mighty_west
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 3439

                                #30
                                Originally posted by JanLorMill
                                I don’t think we can continue to play Hynes and Dolan together at the moment. One or the other.
                                The main issue was that Dolan played the majority of the game coming on as sub, had he been used sparingly say in the last quarter for fresh legs it would possibly be ok but i tend to agree, i wonder if VDM takes one of Dolan or Hynes places if he's good to go as VDM has played pretty well this season, also agree that JOD goes back for Buku, just seems more reliable to me plus with Bont back, he can play as the third tallish forward at times.

                                I was thinking about whilst watching the second half and we just ran out of gas, the lions could see that and just took full advantage, poor old Libba could barely run at times but to have a few kids playing probably hurt us, an underdone JJ also didn't help although he just has to keep playing now.

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