Jamarra Ugle-Hagan

[ledge]

I'm not saying they're the right friends for him, rather, they're possibly making him feel comfortable.

We can't change them, we probably can't change him, so how do we change the environment to make it comfortable or more comfortable than where he's spending his time now? Maybe we can't, shouldn't or won't, but that's the challenge I'm trying to articulate.

Telling a bloke his friends are shit and expecting him to change his behaviour isn't going to be effective.

No player is bigger than a club , we shouldn’t need to tell him he has shit friends it’s obvious , we obviously sat down with his family the AFL and him to try and sort it out , in the end he is 22 and is an adult he chooses his path .
Lloyd hit the nail on the head and I think in that meeting it was decided he comes good or his contract is torn up next year, he apparently said he wants to play but his actions have not shown that .
I also think the club was given instructions to make sure they fulfill their part of the contract eg player welfare etc .
I believe we will let him loose and the AFL will grant us our money back( not have to pay him ) and he will be banned from putting his name up in a trade or draft next year . I don’t think anyone will be interested anyway .

[GVGjr]

This whole situation makes me feel sad. Sad for him, sad for us, the folly of wasted talent.

Based on what we know, and it would only be a small portion, I don't feel that sad for him.
Marra is making his own decisions and he realises there are consequences with a lot of them.
He's had a lot of support and guidance from the club and the AFL but his preference is to find other avenues to enjoy his life.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Based on what we know, and it would only be a small portion, I don't feel that sad for him.
Marra is making his own decisions and he realises there are consequences with a lot of them.
He's had a lot of support and guidance from the club and the AFL but his preference is to find other avenues to enjoy his life.

Yeah I don't subscribe to feeling sad about it. Let's not pretend none of this is his own doing, which is fine, he's free to choose his own path.

Few people get the opportunities he's been afforded and even fewer get paid as well as he has.

I hope we move on, there has to be a breach of contract that we can trigger to get out of this.

[NAUGHTY100]

A couple of points.
1. If he never plays another game of AFL, but makes a happy life for himself then he's been successful

2. If he leaves us to have a successful career with another club then we've failed.

3. If he ends up broke and friendless - a footnote in sporting history - then that is a tragedy.

Unfortunately, the world of boxing is full of examples of young men who've been exploited by hangers-on and have ended up with nothing.

I wish him well and, whatever the outcome, I hope he ends up feeling happy with no regrets.

Agree with all points you make apart from your 2nd point .
Everyone and i mean everyone has tried to help him, the club, the AFL aparently his managment , all have tried and failed to get him back on track and back into playing football , so to me your drawing a long bow saying , if he leaves and is successful its our fault .
All the wrong decisions he has made are on him , his choice of freinds his choice of venues he goes to his choice of what time his hanging around outside nightclubs , so as far as the club is concerned they have done all in their power to bring him back into the fold without success , thats not our fault its his choice .
I have been a defender of Marra , but its time we both moved on , the more you dig into this saga the messier it gets .
Back a few posts i said whether his mates are dickheads or not its his decsion to hang with them , and defended that decsion then news drops that his being investigated by police after a shooting at a night club , holy shit what on earth is going through this guys head , and on the eve of probably the most important game of the year this week the club has to put up with this distraction , nah its time we cut him loose wish him well and concentrate on players who want to be there .

[GVGjr]

Yeah I don't subscribe to feeling sad about it. Let's not pretend none of this is his own doing, which is fine, he's free to choose his own path.

Few people get the opportunities he's been afforded and even fewer get paid as well as he has.

I hope we move on, there has to be a breach of contract that we can trigger to get out of this.

If he keeps being around others who are breaching the law in a big way eventually he's going to get charged with something and that's when the AFL could de-register him
At the moment i believe it's in the AFL's hands not us.

[Uninformed]

If he keeps being around others who are breaching the law in a big way eventually he's going to get charged with something and that's when the AFL could de-register him
At the moment i believe it's in the AFL's hands not us.

Surely not turning up fit and ready to play for an entire year would be a breach of contract?

[Hotdog60]

[GVGjr]

Surely not turning up fit and ready to play for an entire year would be a breach of contract?

Hard to action a breach of contract when his absence was justified as mental health challenges.
It's his actions over the last couple of months are more likely to see the AFL step in.

[Uninformed]

Hard to action a breach of contract when his absence was justified as mental health challenges.
It's his actions over the last couple of months are more likely to see the AFL step in.

It would be totally unprofessional for the club to pay him to not play again next year surely? It is a football club, not a mental health hospital.

[Axe Man]

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan reveals just how close he was to Love Machine shooting

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan says he’s been left “traumatised” by a weekend nightclub shooting, revealing just how close he was to the incident that occurred at Love Machine in Prahran.

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan says he’s lucky he wasn’t hit after a weekend nightclub shooting that he says has left him “traumatised”.

The Western Bulldogs forward – who has not played this season after dealing with personal issues – said he had spoken to Victoria Police on Monday, in the aftermath of the Love Machine incident that occurred at about 2.25am on Sunday having been nearby as shots were fired outside the nightclub.

But he maintained he was being treated “as a witness”.

“It was that close to me, I’m lucky I wasn’t hit,” Ugle-Hagan told the Herald Sun on Tuesday.

“I wasn’t involved with anything, as the police know.

“There was 20 people around me and probably another 100 at the venue, but my name is being mentioned like I have some kind of part in it.

“I’m linked just by being there. It’s trial by media.

“It is out of my control.

“It is traumatising and no one should be near or see any of that.”

Ugle-Hagan, 23, was getting into an rideshare vehicle at the time of the gunshots and said the incident had had a “massive” effect on him mentally over recent days.

“It definitely takes a massive toll on my anxiety and stress,” he said.

“It is even scary to just walk around as it happened right behind me.”

He conceded that being at the Malvern Road nightspot — which has been at the centre of three violent attacks in recent weeks — at that time of the morning was not ideal on his behalf.

Police were called to the venue after reports of a fight between a group of people outside the club early on Sunday morning, with Victoria Police saying on Sunday that there had been no injuries reported after a firearm had been discharged.

The Western Bulldogs were contacted on Monday and said it was a police matter.

Ugle-Hagan — who was not at the club again on Tuesday — is contracted at the Bulldogs for next season and while trade speculation has been rampant, he says he remains committed to returning to football.

“People need to understand I’m safe,” he said.

“Which is the biggest thing – I’m not even involved, but I can’t let this get to me.

“I’m lucky I’m alive and nothing happened, as it was only a metre away (from me).”

The forward, who has played 67 games, remains yet to discuss whether he will seek a trade at the end of last season, having told this masthead recently that he was “mentally getting better” having returned from a stint at a wellness retreat in northern New South Wales earlier this year.

In a powerful and emotional interview in June, Ugle-Hagan laid bare the mental struggles he had endured, with the Bulldogs having granted him personal leave for a portion of the season.

[Aidan7557]

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan reveals just how close he was to Love Machine shooting

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan says he’s been left “traumatised” by a weekend nightclub shooting, revealing just how close he was to the incident that occurred at Love Machine in Prahran.

Jamarra Ugle-Hagan says he’s lucky he wasn’t hit after a weekend nightclub shooting that he says has left him “traumatised”.

The Western Bulldogs forward – who has not played this season after dealing with personal issues – said he had spoken to Victoria Police on Monday, in the aftermath of the Love Machine incident that occurred at about 2.25am on Sunday having been nearby as shots were fired outside the nightclub.

But he maintained he was being treated “as a witness”.

“It was that close to me, I’m lucky I wasn’t hit,” Ugle-Hagan told the Herald Sun on Tuesday.

“I wasn’t involved with anything, as the police know.

“There was 20 people around me and probably another 100 at the venue, but my name is being mentioned like I have some kind of part in it.

“I’m linked just by being there. It’s trial by media.

“It is out of my control.

“It is traumatising and no one should be near or see any of that.”

Ugle-Hagan, 23, was getting into an rideshare vehicle at the time of the gunshots and said the incident had had a “massive” effect on him mentally over recent days.

“It definitely takes a massive toll on my anxiety and stress,” he said.

“It is even scary to just walk around as it happened right behind me.”

He conceded that being at the Malvern Road nightspot — which has been at the centre of three violent attacks in recent weeks — at that time of the morning was not ideal on his behalf.

Police were called to the venue after reports of a fight between a group of people outside the club early on Sunday morning, with Victoria Police saying on Sunday that there had been no injuries reported after a firearm had been discharged.

The Western Bulldogs were contacted on Monday and said it was a police matter.

Ugle-Hagan — who was not at the club again on Tuesday — is contracted at the Bulldogs for next season and while trade speculation has been rampant, he says he remains committed to returning to football.

“People need to understand I’m safe,” he said.

“Which is the biggest thing – I’m not even involved, but I can’t let this get to me.

“I’m lucky I’m alive and nothing happened, as it was only a metre away (from me).”

The forward, who has played 67 games, remains yet to discuss whether he will seek a trade at the end of last season, having told this masthead recently that he was “mentally getting better” having returned from a stint at a wellness retreat in northern New South Wales earlier this year.

In a powerful and emotional interview in June, Ugle-Hagan laid bare the mental struggles he had endured, with the Bulldogs having granted him personal leave for a portion of the season.

He is so delusional at the moment it is not funny.

[hujsh]

He is so delusional at the moment it is not funny.

I said something to this affect after the interview with Mitch Robinson, he still seemingly either did not understand why he wasn't allowed to play or felt it was unfair/a misunderstanding, which was a pretty bad sign. I think the only club that would take him is Geelong. They seem to not give a shit if their players OD at a night club and help them keep it quiet as long as they play decent footy.

[MrMahatma]

I mean, he’s gotta go. We should actually just not let him back into the club. Clear the locker. 2:30am? Please… that’s trying your hardest to get back playing and win the trust of your team mates.

And poor him and his anxiety… give it a rest.

Enough is enough from this joker.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

Hard to read that article.

He's just got no self awareness whatsoever. He's obsessed with playing the victim and avoiding any accountability. It's alarming that he still can't figure it out.

[Aidan7557]

Hard to read that article.

He's just got no self awareness whatsoever. He's obsessed with playing the victim and avoiding any accountability. It's alarming that he still can't figure it out.

10000000000% right.