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  • Cmac1297
    Rookie List
    • Dec 2024
    • 77

    #166
    Any chance we can front end the contract and give port no chance of matching?

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11958

      #167
      Originally posted by Cmac1297
      Any chance we can front end the contract and give port no chance of matching?
      Finally use that Hurley money!
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • Axe Man
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 11477

        #168
        Originally posted by Cmac1297
        Any chance we can front end the contract and give port no chance of matching?
        They were willing to pay NWM something like $2 million per season so that seems highly unlikely.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45494

          #169
          Originally posted by Cmac1297
          Any chance we can front end the contract and give port no chance of matching?
          They've apparently got plenty of room and have planned for that.
          We will have to trade.
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Cmac1297
            Rookie List
            • Dec 2024
            • 77

            #170
            I’m not talking like 2m I’m saying can you throw up like 4m up front first year move other contracts around it ? Might be reaching abit haha

            Other option is maybe just hope port finish bottom 4 so they get a top 5 compo pick and then we do a few pick swaps with them to make them happy and not match.

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            • Cmac1297
              Rookie List
              • Dec 2024
              • 77

              #171
              Originally posted by Axe Man

              They were willing to pay NWM something like $2 million per season so that seems highly unlikely.
              Port doing that tells me they were ready to let Butters go if they got nwm, there’s no way they were gonna have both on that money or have the picks to get nwm without moving Butters on.

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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 11477

                #172
                Originally posted by Cmac1297

                Port doing that tells me they were ready to let Butters go if they got nwm, there’s no way they were gonna have both on that money or have the picks to get nwm without moving Butters on.
                Probably but my point was since they didn't get NWM it means they can match anything we can offer Butters.

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                • doggies ftw
                  Senior Player
                  • Dec 2013
                  • 1001

                  #173
                  Originally posted by Axe Man

                  Probably but my point was since they didn't get NWM it means they can match anything we can offer Butters.
                  It’s not the point if Port can match it though it’s will they? because the thing is if he signs a 3mil, 1yr contract with us we can extend it after and smooth it out to where it should be. Ie 3 mil year 1, re-signs in preseason for a further 5 years at a proportionally lower rate for a total 6 years at the original agreed contract.

                  If Port match they’re then back in the same situation next year with Butters and have spent 3 mil on a player who doesn’t want to be there and looking to leave again. As he won’t be re-signing with them to smooth that out.

                  It’s a good suggestion and we’re potentially in the position to do something like this with the cap space we have and we should absolutely use it if Port won’t play ball and let him leave on a normal contract.

                  Knowing us though we’ll play mr nice guy and offer 3 firsts & more out of good will to not screw over another club. **** it time to get the claws out, we’ve been pushed around by other clubs enough. If we don’t start, also, playing dirty we’re going to be taking a nice, peaceful trip to the bottom in this current age of trade & FA.

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                  • jazzadogs
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 5837

                    #174
                    Once they match the offer, is he essentially contracted to them? In terms of our bargaining power...

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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11958

                      #175
                      Originally posted by jazzadogs
                      Once they match the offer, is he essentially contracted to them? In terms of our bargaining power...
                      I think it essentially becomes the same as us with Bailey Smith or Dunkley.
                      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      • Axe Man
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 11477

                        #176
                        Originally posted by doggies ftw

                        It’s not the point if Port can match it though it’s will they? because the thing is if he signs a 3mil, 1yr contract with us we can extend it after and smooth it out to where it should be. Ie 3 mil year 1, re-signs in preseason for a further 5 years at a proportionally lower rate for a total 6 years at the original agreed contract.

                        If Port match they’re then back in the same situation next year with Butters and have spent 3 mil on a player who doesn’t want to be there and looking to leave again. As he won’t be re-signing with them to smooth that out.

                        It’s a good suggestion and we’re potentially in the position to do something like this with the cap space we have and we should absolutely use it if Port won’t play ball and let him leave on a normal contract.

                        Knowing us though we’ll play mr nice guy and offer 3 firsts & more out of good will to not screw over another club. **** it time to get the claws out, we’ve been pushed around by other clubs enough. If we don’t start, also, playing dirty we’re going to be taking a nice, peaceful trip to the bottom in this current age of trade & FA.
                        They aren't matching to keep him or actually pay him the money, they match to force a trade that nets them something better than a single first rounder after their natural first.

                        They only need to have the capacity to match.

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                        • Cmac1297
                          Rookie List
                          • Dec 2024
                          • 77

                          #177
                          If they finish bottom 4 surely they don’t match the offer they’re not gonna get a better offer from us

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                          • doggies ftw
                            Senior Player
                            • Dec 2013
                            • 1001

                            #178
                            Originally posted by Axe Man

                            They aren't matching to keep him or actually pay him the money, they match to force a trade that nets them something better than a single first rounder after their natural first.

                            They only need to have the capacity to match.
                            It’s a big risk though, they have to match knowing he very well might say sweet I’ll stay an extra year for the 3 mil pay day and try again next year.

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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10246

                              #179
                              So they match, we trade out all our good picks and get the media to paint Port as unreasonable and irrational until they fold and accept a pick in the 20’s.

                              love it.

                              was trying to quote hujsh but didn’t work for some reason…
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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