Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

[Danjul]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

I have seen fatigue offered as an explanation of our recent decline. IÂ’m sure players are tiring but a look at what happened when the Dogs played Essendon recently doesnÂ’t support that conclusion. The Dogs had 50 more possessions. Nearly twice as many inside 50Â’s ( many wide into the left pocket)

Essendon won because of two factors.

Accurate goal kicking. For example the second quarter: 6 straight against 3:2 (match winning performance)

Very clean ruck dominance set this up.

Here is EssendonÂ’s ruck performance in the second half of the season.

14, 23, 23,, 24, 26, 27, 28, 30, 30, 33, 34. 42, 48

Now, which was against the Dogs?

Correct! 48. When the numbers are this extreme the problem is ourselves.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

Just roll the dice Bevo.

Especially when he did with Vandermeer, who is structurally no where near as important!!

Cmon Bevo ffs.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

Stefan's either not playing or is cherry ripe and Bevo's playing the game.

I mean, you never know with Bevo, but the fact we continued with Young last week suggests we’re readying ourselves for Stef to return. Why else play that weird strategy with English not rucking? Who knows….

[Missing Dog]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

Out: Van der hum
in: Marra, if he gets 4 kicks we likely get 4 goals, van der hum would be lucky to get 4 kicks

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

I have seen fatigue offered as an explanation of our recent decline. IÂ’m sure players are tiring but a look at what happened when the Dogs played Essendon recently doesnÂ’t support that conclusion. The Dogs had 50 more possessions. Nearly twice as many inside 50Â’s ( many wide into the left pocket)

Essendon won because of two factors.

Accurate goal kicking. For example the second quarter: 6 straight against 3:2 (match winning performance)

Very clean ruck dominance set this up.

Here is EssendonÂ’s ruck performance in the second half of the season.

14, 23, 23,, 24, 26, 27, 28, 30, 30, 33, 34. 42, 48

Now, which was against the Dogs?

Correct! 48. When the numbers are this extreme the problem is ourselves.

To be honest, apart from the first quarter against Essendon, our mids were as woeful as they were against the hawks. To me, that shows how easily we should account for Essendon. We pressure them, give them no easy run and win the contested possession and we win.

[Mofra]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

Out: Van der hum
in: Marra, if he gets 4 kicks we likely get 4 goals, van der hum would be lucky to get 4 kicks

They are completely different players playing different roles.
VDM led the competition for repeat sprints pre-injury and was playing defensively as much as he was playing offensively. We have tended to play two negating forwards this year.

I think there's room for both.

[comrade]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

Especially when he did with Vandermeer, who is structurally no where near as important!!

Cmon Bevo ffs.

We’ve brought back players like Vanders, Treloar and Dunkley off extended periods out and little prep time and it hasn’t worked BUT the ruck position is less about run and drive and more about structure and neutralisation.

If we’re concerned, keep Young in the side. Drop Wood, put Young in defence, play Stef.

You then have Martin as main ruck, English to back up and Young to back up the back up. Kills a few birds with one move (removes Wood who is bereft of form, provides more height and intercept marking on D50 which is sorely needed and provides additional ruck coverage). It’s not rocket science.

OUT: Wood, JJ, Hannan
IN: Martin, Marra, Scott

I would also punt Cordy and replace him with Schache but it’s not happening so no point.

[Bullies]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

They are completely different players playing different roles.
VDM led the competition for repeat sprints pre-injury and was playing defensively as much as he was playing offensively. We have tended to play two negating forwards this year.

I think there's room for both.

Leading the competition with - "Repeat Sprints". Is that not taking the stats to the next level. Not sure we should be reading to much into it. Would rather see us get back to basics. See ball, get ball - "Repeat Possessions".

[1eyedog]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

We’ve brought back players like Vanders, Treloar and Dunkley off extended periods out and little prep time and it hasn’t worked BUT the ruck position is less about run and drive and more about structure and neutralisation.

If we’re concerned, keep Young in the side. Drop Wood, put Young in defence, play Stef.

You then have Martin as main ruck, English to back up and Young to back up the back up. Kills a few birds with one move (removes Wood who is bereft of form, provides more height and intercept marking on D50 which is sorely needed and provides additional ruck coverage). It’s not rocket science.

OUT: Wood, JJ, Hannan
IN: Martin, Marra, Scott

I would also punt Cordy and replace him with Schache but it’s not happening so no point.

I'm thinking along the same lines as this provides us with a structurally sound shape in the middle and (if Stef breaks down), in-game options to cover him. I get there's a risk if Stef doesn't get through the game and we cop another injury on top of that but that's life at the pointy end. For me, the benefit of your selections above far outweigh potential injury risks. We can't be jumping at shadows it's do or die now.

Plus if Stef does get through the game he will only get better and could prove critical helping us to neutralise Gawn / Ladhams / Lycett moving forward.

I just don't think we'll go very deep playing Young or English against these guys.

[The Pie Man]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

Stefan's either not playing or is cherry ripe and Bevo's playing the game.

If Stef plays, Bevo’s demeanour at his presser would worthy of any poker player.

He won’t be picked

[Bornadog]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

If Stef plays, Bevo’s demeanour at his presser would worthy of any poker player.

He won’t be picked

Presser here

[Sedat]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

They are completely different players playing different roles.
VDM led the competition for repeat sprints pre-injury and was playing defensively as much as he was playing offensively. We have tended to play two negating forwards this year.

I think there's room for both.

We were at our best this season with McNeil and Scott as part of our forward set-up. Not sure why they can't be reintegrated back into our F50 with JJ and VDM to make way. We aren't losing much at all offensively or defensively with these 2 out of the team

[Grantysghost]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

Presser here

Martin ain't playing.

[Grantysghost]

Re: Always Right Match Committee - Finals Week 1

We were at our best this season with McNeil and Scott as part of our forward set-up. Not sure why they can't be reintegrated back into our F50 with JJ and VDM to make way. We aren't losing much at all offensively or defensively with these 2 out of the team

McNeil is an interesting one. Was part of the team when we are flying, for some reason doesn't seem to be in the plans now.

He's young I get that but I like what he brings (can anyone tell?).

[MrMahatma]

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Martin ain't playing.

I agree based on that. No chance. Bevo more or less just wanted to explain why he wouldn’t be picked so that all of us shut up when he’s not, but also leave the door open so Essendon need to plan for the possibility that he will play.

I still think our best chance of winning the flag is with Stef in the team. Is it possible for him to get enough fitness in scratch matches? If not, I’d say we need to risk playing him and hope we get a decent lead that tired legs don’t hurt us in the last qtr. I mean, if we win and Lions win, we play Dees next week… and that won’t end well at all if it’s Gawn v Young.