Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

[GVGjr]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

I'm a bit with you here. I want him to hit the scoreboard consistently, be strong when relieving in the ruck, but also get off the chain from time to time when we need him to if JUH and Naughton aren't contributing how we'd like.

He's an experienced and talented player who if he works hard can deliver good results.

He's had a terrific preseason as well and it's a shame that the injury he copped was right before round one.
I don't think we should be lowering expectations on him. He was brought in to play alongside of Naugthon and if Bruce can get 48 goals in a season doing that role as well as helping in the ruck from time to time Lobb has to be able to get 30+.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

I was just playing through the trade. Right now we are offering up Pick 30 (2022) & 31 (2023 currently).

In 2021 we did a live trade with North to get Pick 39 for our 3rd.
In 2022 we traded two late 3rds for a 2nd, circa 35-38.

If you accept the minor downgraded of 30-to-39 last year and then say 31-to-35-38 this year. Then these very minor downgrades and 3 x Late Third Rounders secured Lobb. Say Picks 46, 47 & 53 and the minor downgrades (still keeping picks in the mid-high 30?s). Equal to about Pick 20 in Draft Points spread over two years (getting Rory last off season).

So we have a genuine second ruck, tall target letting Marra break out, also kicking over a goal a game so far, for three late draft picks (if not for shrewd trading by Sam Power). From this perspective, it?s a very reasonable cost.

[comrade]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

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Having him in the team is clearly helping Timmy and it?s increasingly helpful to our other tall forwards, which is helping us win. We finally have balance and we?re playing better for it.

[SonofScray]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

Interesting use of him again yesterday.

He was at stoppages, about 5 meters off the initial contest almost at every bounce. Playing a sweeper sort of role.

Threw out the big pincers a few times to intercept the scrappy ball out of the stoppage and was a decent physical presence in the clinches.

Keeps finding the goals more weeks than not, which is a great sign.

[GVGjr]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

I get the balance that he brings us but he hasn't measured up to my expectations of him so far.
He's poor at taking overhead marks and while his ruck work is a a bit of an upgrade on some of our makeshift options of the past it's not as effective as I hoped.

[1eyedog]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

I was just playing through the trade. Right now we are offering up Pick 30 (2022) & 31 (2023 currently).

In 2021 we did a live trade with North to get Pick 39 for our 3rd.
In 2022 we traded two late 3rds for a 2nd, circa 35-38.

If you accept the minor downgraded of 30-to-39 last year and then say 31-to-35-38 this year. Then these very minor downgrades and 3 x Late Third Rounders secured Lobb. Say Picks 46, 47 & 53 and the minor downgrades (still keeping picks in the mid-high 30?s). Equal to about Pick 20 in Draft Points spread over two years (getting Rory last off season).

So we have a genuine second ruck, tall target letting Marra break out, also kicking over a goal a game so far, for three late draft picks (if not for shrewd trading by Sam Power). From this perspective, it?s a very reasonable cost.

Wha?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

Wha?

Put another way. If Sam Power didn’t do smart trades with North & Brisbane, we would’ve had picks 48 (2022), (currently) 49 & 50 to try to secure Lobb.

Sam turned them into 39 & 33-36. Which meant in 2022 & 2023 we had two picks each year in the 30-40 range. Which allowed us to trade one from both years whilst maintaining draft order presence.

So we downgraded our first picks here effectively from 30 to 39, and say 31 to 34. Small shuffle.

So we’ve kept presence in 2022 & 2023 in the 30-40 pick range ourselves, by turning what was say 48, 49 & 50 into the Picks 39 & 34 for us to secure Lobb with 30 & 31.

Basically, you could argue we got Lobb for a slight shuffle down the order and ‘natural’ picks say 48, 49 & 50. It’s just that Sam Power managed to turn them into two picks in the 30’s to cover Freo ‘S demands without sacrificing our presence in that draft order range.

Clear as mud?

[Testekill]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

I do like what we're doing with pushing Lobb further up the wings, our forward line was initially just too crowded with all three tall options there but now we've got more balance. Lobb is also hitting the scoreboard which is just a bonus.

[Scraggers]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

I do like what we're doing with pushing Lobb further up the wings, our forward line was initially just too crowded with all three tall options there but now we've got more balance. Lobb is also hitting the scoreboard which is just a bonus.

What impressed me most about his game on the weekend was his tackling. 6 Tackles for the game, one behind Bailey Smith, and he had no hesitation throwing his weight around. For a big man, this was very impressive.

[Sedat]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

Lobb's form cannot be judged solely on his own personal output. His arrival has coincided with massive improvement in output and especially impact from Tim English, and this is precisely what we have desperately lacked for the previous 4 years (save for a 6 week run from Stef Martin before his body failed him).

[Pedro Sanchez]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

Lobb's form cannot be judged solely on his own personal output. His arrival has coincided with massive improvement in output and especially impact from Tim English, and this is precisely what we have desperately lack for the previous 4 years (save for a 6 week run from Stef Martin before his body failed him).

Side note, is Stef Martin still coaching at the club? Dont recall seeing at all since some pre-season pics.

[GVGjr]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

Side note, is Stef Martin still coaching at the club? Dont recall seeing at all since some pre-season pics.

Yes, he's one of the development coaches reporting to Stewart Edge and he's also an assistant coach of Footscray.

[GVGjr]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

Lobb's form cannot be judged solely on his own personal output. His arrival has coincided with massive improvement in output and especially impact from Tim English, and this is precisely what we have desperately lack for the previous 4 years (save for a 6 week run from Stef Martin before his body failed him).

I understand the role of a structure player isn't purely measured on their output but I'm not seeing the real value in Lobb at the moment mainly because he doesn't seem to be able to hold enough high marks like I thought he could. I remain hopeful that some things start to click for him and his output improves.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

To adequeatly judge if he has been a good get so far, I would want to know how much we are paying him.

If he is taking 'role player' money, great.

If he is taking star player money, he is going below par.

[hujsh]

Re: Welcome to the Western Bulldogs Rory Lobb

To adequeatly judge if he has been a good get so far, I would want to know how much we are paying him.

If he is taking 'role player' money, great.

If he is taking star player money, he is going below par.

From the sounds of things he's somewhere between the two.

He was on star player money at Freo and he IIRC extended his contract at the Dogs so it's less money per year over an extra year.