Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

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  • Grantysghost
    Bouncing Strong
    • Apr 2010
    • 19369

    #151
    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

    Originally posted by EasternWest
    I don't think you should close this thread G I am enjoying the discussion,both serious and banter.
    Agree it's like when they clean the Yarra and the rubbish is all caught in one small corner.
    BT COME BACK!​

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    • Rocco Jones
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jun 2008
      • 6984

      #152
      Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

      Originally posted by jazzadogs
      Unrelated but I'd like to request Jordon Sweet in the 2023 Rocco Jones Norm Smith Sweep. Thank you.

      In the unlikely event he is unavailable, I will shotgun the best ruck in the grand final (who we will all know that Jordon Sweet would be better than if he was just given a chance). Thank you.
      Danjul gets first dibs on Sweet or Bont. You get the leftover.

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      • EasternWest
        Hall of Fame
        • Aug 2009
        • 10119

        #153
        Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

        Originally posted by Grantysghost
        Agree it's like when they clean the Yarra and the rubbish is all caught in one small corner.
        Your new profile pick is dreamy yet offensive to me.
        "It's over. It's all over."

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        • Grantysghost
          Bouncing Strong
          • Apr 2010
          • 19369

          #154
          Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

          Originally posted by EasternWest
          Your new profile pick is dreamy yet offensive to me.
          It's actually a Lippa doll.
          BT COME BACK!​

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          • macca
            Coaching Staff
            • Sep 2007
            • 2391

            #155
            Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

            Originally posted by Grantysghost
            You take that back.

            This is thread of the year clubhouse leader.
            But is Quantity > Quality > Kwality ?

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            • chef
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2008
              • 14746

              #156
              Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

              Haven't seen the game, how did the head to head go?
              The curse is dead.

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 22150

                #157
                Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                Originally posted by chef
                Haven't seen the game, how did the head to head go?
                Tim was pathetic early, enabled Sweet to assert some hit out dominance.

                Sweet did nothing around the ground outside of an early goal. Tim kicked a couple and was more prominent around the ground.

                Disappointed in Tim's start, though strangely he wasn't given the first run at it. In a very cute coaching move they put Darcy into the centre to start the game. I'd have eyeballed Tim and put it on him to dominate Sweet from the start, too clever.
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • Grantysghost
                  Bouncing Strong
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 19369

                  #158
                  Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                  Originally posted by chef
                  Haven't seen the game, how did the head to head go?
                  Tim was the better player.
                  Sweet was the better midfield cog and helped their mids dominate from the go.

                  So considering the position they play. Sweet got the points for mine even though Tim played ok and was one of our best.
                  BT COME BACK!​

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                  • 1eyedog
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 13387

                    #159
                    Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                    Originally posted by chef
                    Haven't seen the game, how did the head to head go?
                    Sweet gave his mids first use when it mattered. The goal he kicked on English in the second was a dagger.

                    What English did in the second half was largely irrelevant.
                    But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 15116

                      #160
                      Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                      I'm not sure there was ~$700k difference between them which is a wild guess at their salary difference
                      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 67691

                        #161
                        Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                        Originally posted by Grantysghost
                        Tim was the better player.
                        Sweet was the better midfield cog and helped their mids dominate from the go.

                        So considering the position they play. Sweet got the points for mine even though Tim played ok and was one of our best.
                        Sweet 42 HO but only 9 to his clubs advantage - but that got them going. Tim only 4 HTA, but good around the ground.

                        Also Sweet only 4 Cont Poss, Tim 10
                        FFC: Established 1883

                        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                        • EasternWest
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 10119

                          #162
                          Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Sweet 42 HO but only 9 to his clubs advantage - but that got them going. Tim only 4 HTA, but good around the ground.

                          Also Sweet only 4 Cont Poss, Tim 10
                          English was starched when it mattered so the stats are irrelevant.
                          "It's over. It's all over."

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                          • The Bulldogs Bite
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 11407

                            #163
                            Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                            This is why stats are useless to some degree.

                            Who had the better influence? Clearly it was Sweet, English stat padding when the game was well and truly over counts for nothing.

                            The fact it's even a conversation is an indictment on Tim. He should be dominant against Sweet.

                            I really hope we move him on, he's everything that's wrong with this team - inconsistent, found wanting when it gets hard, flashy, and conditional with his effort in game.

                            I genuinely do not rate him at all.
                            W00F!

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #164
                              Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                              Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                              This is why stats are useless to some degree.

                              Who had the better influence? Clearly it was Sweet, English stat padding when the game was well and truly over counts for nothing.

                              The fact it's even a conversation is an indictment on Tim. He should be dominant against Sweet.

                              I really hope we move him on, he's everything that's wrong with this team - inconsistent, found wanting when it gets hard, flashy, and conditional with his effort in game.

                              I genuinely do not rate him at all.
                              If we can get a top 10 pick in compo (missing finals) and the salary to chase Barass. Then it’s win-win. If Lobb wants to play he’ll play every game next year with us. And actually compete.

                              I can’t make excuses any more. I was happy to keep him at a price. But I’m firm on wanting to see him go and use that movement to rebalance the list.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • Sedat
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 11602

                                #165
                                Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?

                                Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                                This is why stats are useless to some degree.

                                Who had the better influence? Clearly it was Sweet, English stat padding when the game was well and truly over counts for nothing.

                                The fact it's even a conversation is an indictment on Tim. He should be dominant against Sweet.

                                I really hope we move him on, he's everything that's wrong with this team - inconsistent, found wanting when it gets hard, flashy, and conditional with his effort in game.

                                I genuinely do not rate him at all.
                                When there is a future Supercoach Hall of Fame, English will be the first inductee and legend. He always ends up with huge Supercoach numbers which are almost always in sharp contrast to his lack of actual impact on the game.

                                He's a really 'nice' player. I'm wanting an awful lot more than nice for $1m a season for 5-7 years
                                Last edited by Sedat; 06-07-2024, 08:27 PM.
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