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FFC: Established 1883
Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.Comment
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Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?
I was on record as saying we should have gotten into Grundy, but that was obviously before Darcy came on so brilliantly this year.
With long term contracts some of it is about rewarding what's been done to date, but mostly they're about what's projected to be done in the future. Tim earned a long term deal with us, the terms of which were injury and market driven (downwards). Irrespective of that, the deal reflects an expectation that he will deliver his best football over that period.
The good thing is we can manage and keep him accountable to his contract now, after eighteen months of will he or won't he sign speculation. Tim needs to get stronger, he needs to improve his attitude, and we need to find an alternative outside of Darcy to call upon if he fails to do so.
It's in our hands now.
Really happy for Sweet. He took the risk of moving, which says to me it was always likely Tim would stay with us. Sweet has forced his way into the best 22 and is playing good footy finding himself in a preliminary final. He might even win a flag, which would be wonderful for him.
He was never going to be played alongside Tim given our tall timber and Tim's demands to be the number one ruck. No club in the land with Tim playing for them on a one ruck strategy would have preferred Sweet. So it is what it is, let's see how things go from here.TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.Comment
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Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?
It sounds like St Kilda isn't sure about receiving first-round compo for Battle, despite offering him close to $1 million per season.
Every chance English might have only landed ended of first-round compo, on his reported money.Comment
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Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?
The key point here is Tim’s demands to be number 1 ruck. We should never have accepted this demand. I have big doubts Tim will improve as we need him to. Other teams know how to quell him. I’ve said for a long while now it’s sunk cost bias. Hope I’m wrong but clock is ticking with our ageing mids.Josie :)
Our day will come
And we'll have everything.
We'll share the joy
Just like '54 again.Comment
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Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?
I think the clock's past midnight as far as our mids are concerned. But that's another topic.
None of my posting has ever suggested any happiness when it's come to Tim's demands. I guess now we're in the position of having him contracted and we can begin the process of keeping him accountable when we weren't when he was making those demands.
Sam Power, Luke Beveridge, Chris Grant and Ameet Bains are right in the gun on his success or otherwise during this contract period. But more than anything Tim needs to take stock and reduce the gap between his levels of competitiveness in the contest, and commit to never losing around the ground like he does when he's been soundly beaten on any day.
He will never be a hit out machine, and that's fine I don't expect him to be. But he needs to consistently compete. What I won't be able to stomach with him going forward is substandard effort around the ground and being shown up by hacks in that area if he's not having a good day.TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.Comment
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Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?
We hitched our wagon to Tim well before the contract extension. As Josie said, the demands should have been a red flag. Sunk cost bias.
It’s going to kill us in this era unless English can somehow, magically, re-engineer his nature. Or we use him differently.
Well done Sweet. Plays a big boys game, aggressive, hard nosed mentality. Bevo doesn’t value his type so was never going to get his flowers with is.Time and Tide Waits For No ManComment
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Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?
Dare i say but if Tim was Ports ruck last night Hawthorn win that game, Sweet was enormous, had a big impact on the game.Comment
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Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?
You guys are crazy, I've read on here that Sweet is useless and hit outs don't matter and we should all celebrate our Lord and saviour All Australian Ruckman Tim English and we should never question him, the money we're paying him or the length of his contract."It's over. It's all over."Comment
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Re: Sweet Jesus: Should Jordan Sweet be our first ruck?
Can you teach a big guy aggression and how to throw his body around to get into the right positions ?
Schache could not be taught
I recall Colingwood brought in Jarred Malloy to teach the Rocca brothers how to through their weight around.
What is Travis Cloak doing nowadays?Comment
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