Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

[Mantis]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

Just signed a 2 year deal if I'm not mistaken, so WC would not let him go unless it was above his market worth.

I think we are hunting in the right city but not the right player. Not interested in the likes of Jaymie Graham, Ash Hansen, Brent Staker, David Mundy, Ben McKinley or Ryan Murphy - they would all command wortth in excess of their ability and none of them really address any of our key weaknesses. Who I would not mind us having a crack at is Matt Spangher. He's spent most of his career to date injured (OP and shoulders), has only recently come into the WC team, is a nice height and moves very well for a tall defender - plenty of upside there. Is a Melbourne lad and has one more year to run on his contract. WC might be tempted to trade him now rather than risk losing him for nothing next year. He won't cost anywhere near as much as any of the Freo or WC KPP retreads mentioned already in this thread.

Would us chasing him depend on what we do with Wight and O'Shea? I know we have struggled in the 2nd half of the year for tall defender's, but if Williams can get himself fit and Everitt put on some size we should be ok in this area.

[Bulldogs_6]

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IMO Adam Campbell is very much worth a look at, would definitely involve Farren Ray in a trade there.

[Sedat]

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Would us chasing him depend on what we do with Wight and O'Shea? I know we have struggled in the 2nd half of the year for tall defender's, but if Williams can get himself fit and Everitt put on some size we should be ok in this area.

It would, but I suspect that Wight's papers have been stamped having played only one game since Round 8 despite the paucity of talls down back late in the season. As for O'Shea, talk is his spot on the senior list is doubtful as well (possibly downgraded to the rookie list). So that would mean Lake, Williams and Everitt are the only 3 genuine key defenders on our senior list - would not mind another one, especially considering Everitt has shown he is not yet ready to assume a key defensive post and Williams is a veteran of all of 17 senior games.

[Mantis]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

It would, but I suspect that Wight's papers have been stamped having played only one game since Round 8 despite the paucity of talls down back late in the season. As for O'Shea, talk is his spot on the senior list is doubtful as well (possibly downgraded to the rookie list). So that would mean Lake, Williams and Everitt are the only 3 genuine key defenders on our senior list - would not mind another one, especially considering Everitt has shown he is not yet ready to assume a key defensive post and Williams is a veteran of all of 17 senior games.

Going to be intersting times ahead... Can't wait.

[dog town]

Re: Official 2008 Draft/Trade Thread

I just thought I would give my take on the guys listed so far in this thread.


Staker- I have heard a few of the WA media types say he in a guy the Eagles are likely to move on. Not sure what the asking price would be. Biggest plus for us with this guy is that he has a little bit of versatility so can be used at both ends. Not great at either end but he has a bit to work with. Certainly wouldn't pay alot for him.

Hansen- Certainly worth considering but my gut says they would want more than he is worth. He is a premiership CHF but injuries have hurt him and he is a little bit one dimensional. He plays Rob Murphy's role and while he is taller in cm's, he certainly doesn't play taller. I would have him because you can never have too many dangerous forwards but cost is the issue. In our favour is the fact that they have Kennedy who is a different type but will play a similar role.

Campbell- Big lumbering forward with a nice long kick. Takes marks in clutches then goes missing. You will see him flash into a game and take 3 or 4 marks then not be seen the rest of the game.

Murphy- Immensely talented and a perfect size. No intensity or physicality would be a nice way of putting his flaws. He can run and jump with the best of them. When he was a semi regular member of the side he did occasionally take some decent marks. They were mainly of the jump from behind variety as opposed to the stand up in a pack variety. No thanks from me. Probably the most talented but I dont see us getting it out of him any more than Freo could.

McIntosh- Wont be traded and would cost over the odds if he was.

Jones- Had an injury plagued year. He is a better player than his form this year indicated. Would be another dangerous forward but plays a similar style to Hahn.

Spangher- Wouldn't mind this if it came at the right price. Was reasonably highly rated as a junior and is a good size.

Mundy- Would love to get him but Freo would ask for our first round pick and that cant happen at the moment. Would slot into our back 6 nicely and free up other players.

Laycock- Not really what we need in a big bloke.

Thorpe- Wont happen. Hawks rate him very highly.

I certainly dont think we should place all our eggs in the TALLS basket. We need some run and carry to give us that edge again. Lovett was always going to come into the frame for us once the season finished. He is a no brainer as far as I am concerned depending on cost. Rocket thought enough of him to tag him.

I wouldn't think we will do a great deal of trading unless deals absolutely jump out at us.

[Missing-Dog]

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Any interest from us with regards to Warnock at Freo?

[The Underdog]

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Any interest from us with regards to Warnock at Freo?

I think the bidding will be too high from teams who can give up more than we can/are better placed in the PSD.

For anyone who was interested in Laycock he's just signed for 2 more years.

I think we'll struggle to pick up a decent ruck option but I think it'll be the end for one of Street or Skip and both if we can bring another backup option in.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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I thought it worthwhile to have a review on our list and nominate some of the changes I would make.

Draft
With our first pick locked in for Ayce Cordy we will have our first live pick around the 30 mark. This would be a hard pick to trade so we should use it to fill our most pressing need list wise. Forget about best available here and just cover our needs.
However with losing two experienced midfielders we must use some of our next selections on more mature recruits.

Is it a fair certainty that we will have to use our first pick on Ayce? It's going to be interesting given Ayce is rated very highly by many recruiters. This looms as the first real test of the tender system for Father/Sons, in terms of teams nominating a 1st round to secure him?
Is it possible we may still nab him with our 2nd or even 3rd round?
Hypothetically, if we were to be able to utilise a pick other than our 1st round for Ayce this would open up an opportunity to effectively choose another top rated talent with our 1st rounder.
Is it wishful thinking of me to believe this scenario could play out?

[GVGjr]

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Is it a fair certainty that we will have to use our first pick on Ayce? It's going to be interesting given Ayce is rated very highly by many recruiters. This looms as the first real test of the tender system for Father/Sons, in terms of teams nominating a 1st round to secure him?
Is it possible we may still nab him with our 2nd or even 3rd round?
Hypothetically, if we were to be able to utilise a pick other than our 1st round for Ayce this would open up an opportunity to effectively choose another top rated talent with our 1st rounder.
Is it wishful thinking of me to believe this scenario could play out?

I'd just about put money on the fact that we will need to use our first pick on Cordy.

[Yankee Hotel Foxtrot]

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I'd just about put money on the fact that we will need to use our first pick on Cordy.

Dang! Just when we look like getting our hands on a great father son pick.... the new system comes and bites us. Ole Geelong really made hay while the sun shined getting Hawkins for a 3rd rounder and using pick 4 to get Selwood.....
The Father son salad days are over!!

[GVGjr]

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Dang! Just when we look like getting our hands on a great father son pick.... the new system comes and bites us. Ole Geelong really made hay while the sun shined getting Hawkins for a 3rd rounder and using pick 4 to get Selwood.....
The Father son salad days are over!!

I think we discussed this a while back and a number of people here thought it was a fair system but it's not. The 2nd round pick was a fair price to pay.

[remster]

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I reckon Farren Ray can go home to Perth , get rid of him .

[remster]

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Make a play for Warnock perhaps !

[The Coon Dog]

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I think we discussed this a while back and a number of people here thought it was a fair system but it's not. The 2nd round pick was a fair price to pay.

It used to be the 3rd round pick.

[GVGjr]

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It used to be the 3rd round pick.

I meant to say 'a fairer price'.

Too many bargains by paying just a 3rd round pick
A 2nd round pick would be a fairer price though