The Bald Eagle

[Mantis]

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Ok. Does Wood have the body and does Stack have the aerobic capacity. I'd say no.

As per another thread i'd love to see what Stack can do, i think he is one of these players that lifts with the comp. But pound for pound, i fail to see who can replace him.

Then the neext loaded question is: He is on the Vets list if we want him. Do we go a rookie or keep him? - This is the real emotionaless answer i'm after.

Eagleton's aerobic capacity based on todays performance is pretty poor. As I have stated I watched him extremely closely today and he was unable to sustain repeated chasing efforts. He seemed to be just jogging on most occassions and seemed to lack the acceleration he once had.

Wood's body is a little slight, but not slight enough to suggest he is unsuitable for AFL footy.

Finally my views on Eagleton are well known so I you're probably giving the loaded gun to the wrong person.

[bulldogtragic]

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Eagleton's aerobic capacity based on todays performance is pretty poor. As I have stated I watched him extremely closely today and he was unable to sustain repeated chasing efforts. He seemed to be just jogging on most occassions and seemed to lack the acceleration he once had.

Wood's body is a little slight, but not slight enough to suggest he is unsuitable for AFL footy.

Finally my views on Eagleton are well known so I you're probably giving the loaded gun to the wrong person.

No. I have found in life surrounding those or communicating with those who only support your point of view is the surest way of maintaining a strong sense of ignorance. Your opinions are based on what you beleive are fact and well supported. I say good criticism and that if he is not playing the role the coaches want than he should watch out. I on the other hand think there is something left in his tank i'm not sure about 2010. But if the draft is shallow i would prefer him on the Vet's list than a rookie.

[The Underdog]

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I have taken GVG's advice and moved this discussion to the appropriate thread.

I really don't know what role he can fill. His field kicking is poor... I'm not making that up either... It is. I am racking my brain to find out what he adds to the side and I don't know. Maybe his tackling... as I have been told he's a good tackler.

He spent all his time in the forwardline hanging out the side of packs or in front of packs waiting for the easy goal or possession. He was out of position when the ball went the other way so didn't give much (if any) forward pressure.

As I have previously stated it looks like it's going to be a tough year for one of the only passionate supporters of the Bulldogs who is absolutely miffed at what value Eagleton adds to the team.

His kicking has gone from a strength to being very poor. He can't hit a target and when going long he get's under the ball which ends up as just a contest in the forward 50 rather than a kick to advantage. His only decent piece of play today was his use of the body to create our first goal. as we all know he can't handball for shit and his decision making is average at best.
I'd be more than happy to play Reid, O'Keefe, Stack or any other young'un and give them experience over playing Eagle who should by all right's be delisted at the end of the year. All they have to do is create a contest and run hard to match what he is currently doing inconsistently.

[Mofra]

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His kicking yesterday (apart from a few good examples) was almost Sam Power like - accurate however they had far too much hang time, allowing the opposition to challenge. He had two serious clangers, and two pieces of brilliant play which cancelled them out (first goal, and I think in the 4th when he had 3 handballs in a row to release Griffen for a run down the wing).

The problem is we don't have anyone who plays his role seriously challenging at Willy - Ward played well by all accounts but is an inside mid, Reid is seriously inside, Stack is inconsistent, Guy O'Keefe is close but Rocket isn't a massive fan by all accounts as he needs to improve his endurance. If Wood wants to press for a spot, Eagle is the logical choice, but the reports indicate he is not quite ready yet.

Hill could play on the wing except he has been our most dangerous forward so far this season and being behind only Lake in marking ability, we need him forward more often than not.

I would expect if anyone is under pressure, it'd be Addison anyway. I'm an unashamed fan of his hardness & endeavour, but he simply isn't getting enough of the ball at the moment, and both Reid & Ward could feasibly take his spot.

[Ozza]

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Dreadful again. Am staggered that he keeps getting a game.

[LostDoggy]

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Finally my views on Eagleton are well known so I you're probably giving the loaded gun to the wrong person.

Why then continue to go on and on about it, give it a rest you sound like a broken record.

[Mantis]

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Why then continue to go on and on about it, give it a rest you sound like a broken record.

I'm not. I was asked specific questions by another poster (42-C-3) in discussion's last night. I believe I was both fair & reasonable with my responses.

Sure I have at times gone overboard, but I don't think this was the case last night.

[mighty_west]

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As much as a supporter of the Bald one i have been, i wouldn't mind him given a few games at Willy, bring in O'Keefe, also a small left footed goal kicking mid who is in good form, and deserves his chance.

Like a few players, Eagle just seems to be going through the motions at the moment.

[soupman]

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As much as a supporter of the Bald one i have been, i wouldn't mind him given a few games at Willy, bring in O'Keefe, also a small left footed goal kicking mid who is in good form, and deserves his chance.

Like a few players, Eagle just seems to be going through the motions at the moment.

I'm definitely warming to this idea. While I'm not typically as critical of Eagletons performances as some on here, it is getting to the point where I'm not sure he offers much more than an O'Keefe, and considering O'Keefe would be liekly to get better over the season, and eagleton probably worse, I know who I'd be picking.

[Mofra]

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I'm definitely warming to this idea. While I'm not typically as critical of Eagletons performances as some on here, it is getting to the point where I'm not sure he offers much more than an O'Keefe, and considering O'Keefe would be liekly to get better over the season, and eagleton probably worse, I know who I'd be picking.

I suspect if O'Keefe had played particularly well last weekend he'd be a realistic chance. By the sounds of it, Ward will come in first.

[Missing-Dog]

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Whats the idea playing Eagleton up forward?
Is it he is no longer up to playing on the wing?
Wasnt he tagging the other week?
Now looks like they are hiding him in the forward pocket.
Is the next step the VFL or does it depend on how the teams going or who we play against??

[bulldogtragic]

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Whats the idea playing Eagleton up forward?
Is it he is no longer up to playing on the wing?
Wasnt he tagging the other week?
Now looks like they are hiding him in the forward pocket.
Is the next step the VFL or does it depend on how the teams going or who we play against??

Interesting questions.

I think it must be who we are playing against. I fully take CD's word re: the respect internally for Nathan.

Will be very interesting to see where he gets in against Adelaide.

[MrMahatma]

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I think of all the changes that are mooted, swapping him with O'Keefe could be a good positive for the team. Eagle had some bad turn overs on the weekend, and really, as a senior player, it's not good enough.

Would rather see a senior player punished for a poor performance than a young kid dropped IE Grant, for having a quiet game.

[Missing Dog]

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Take his leg speed away, who is the next fastest across the ground at the moment (conisdering some players are coming back from injury). We could do with an extra outside runner at the moment.

how about Farren Ray? Oh , wait a minute...

this brings up an important point: You can admire the "inside" players who win the hard ball all you like, but its the outside players that do the damage on the scoreboard. IMHO we have a culture of valuing inside players more than the "outside" players, whereas the top teams have an even complement of both.

[Missing Dog]

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I think of all the changes that are mooted, swapping him with O'Keefe could be a good positive for the team. Eagle had some bad turn overs on the weekend, and really, as a senior player, it's not good enough.

Would rather see a senior player punished for a poor performance than a young kid dropped IE Grant, for having a quiet game.

what about Johnno's peformances this year? Would he still be in the side if he wasn't Brad Johnson, 300-gamer and all?