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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #166
    Re: The Bald Eagle

    No I don't know you well, all I know is that you don't like Eagleton and you want him dropped.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #167
      Re: The Bald Eagle

      Originally posted by Mantis
      You don't know me very well do you Dex.

      At the start of the season I was more than happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. Read post #24 in this thread and you can see that I was not unhappy with his performances. His last 2 have been poor, but I feel he is one player who will not come under pressure to keep his spot while the young players will churn through the side like they are stuck in a revolving door.
      If it makes you feel any better Mantis, we can keep him pretty well for free on the vet's list next year.
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      • The Coon Dog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7579

        #168
        Re: The Bald Eagle

        Originally posted by 42-C-3
        If it makes you feel any better Mantis, we can keep him pretty well for free on the vet's list next year.
        Somehow I don't think that will appease Mantis, funny though!
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        • Stevo
          Senior Player
          • May 2008
          • 1098

          #169
          Re: The Bald Eagle

          Originally posted by DexterT
          Face it guys, Mantis has a Hate Child and his name is Eagleton. No matter what Eagleton does, Mantis will find some stat, some action to point out how crap Eagleton is. No point arguing with someone when he's made up his mind.
          Yes he has become predictable, obsessive and downright boring with this ongoing matinee and grandstanding. Rather than outing the coach for selecting him he'll take the easy road and pick apart the player. Most of us are seeing through it but some are just following the leader and even loading the gun for him.
          At the end of the day he won't sway my opinion.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67706

            #170
            Re: The Bald Eagle

            Did a good job on Stevens and shut him out of the game.
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            • Mantis
              Hall of Fame
              • Apr 2007
              • 15548

              #171
              Re: The Bald Eagle

              Sorry to all for my persistent de-grading of Eagleton's performances. I will heed the advice of posters who opinions I respect and stop posting on this player as I get the feeling my views and posts are becoming tiresome.

              Lets hope that the team performs well this week and that Nathan performs his role in the team at such level that is satisfactory to all.

              Cheers

              Mantis.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 67706

                #172
                Re: The Bald Eagle

                Originally posted by Mantis
                Sorry to all for my persistent de-grading of Eagleton's performances. I will heed the advice of posters who opinions I respect and stop posting on this player as I get the feeling my views and posts are becoming tiresome.

                Lets hope that the team performs well this week and that Nathan performs his role in the team at such level that is satisfactory to all.

                Cheers

                Mantis.
                Well done Mantis.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • Missing-Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3102

                  #173
                  Re: The Bald Eagle

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  It was a crucial role cutting out Stevens wasn't it?? How about giving him a task like trying to curb the influence of Murphy or Gibbs or Simpson as they were the player's who were killing us.

                  By my reckoning Eagleton moved onto Stevens during the 3rd qtr. The stat sheet says that Stevens got 12 possesions and I can remember from the tape that he got atleast 3 or 4 touches on Eagleton. Those 8 or 9 touches Nick got when opposed to 'player X' must have been extremely damaging as I didn't really notice that he was getting out of the loop, as they say.

                  I think I am wasting my time anyway and I better get used to watching the bald one in action for the rest of this season at the very least... F***ing great.
                  Agreed, as i mentioned previously

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 15118

                    #174
                    Re: The Bald Eagle

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    To now say that he is a hard tackling run with player is a fair dinkum cop out.
                    IIRC he led our tackles 3 weeks ago with 9.
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                    • The Coon Dog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 7579

                      #175
                      Re: The Bald Eagle

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      IIRC he led our tackles 3 weeks ago with 9.
                      I reckon you're right, he did have 9 tackles. I really wish he did that more often though. I guess alot of it is about being around the ball, look at ANZAC Day, Paddy Ryder had heaps of tackles & he's not normally known for that.
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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 15118

                        #176
                        Re: The Bald Eagle

                        Originally posted by The Coon Dog
                        I reckon you're right, he did have 9 tackles. I really wish he did that more often though. I guess alot of it is about being around the ball, look at ANZAC Day, Paddy Ryder had heaps of tackles & he's not normally known for that.
                        Two examples of players adding another string to their bow, especially pertinent with Eagle being an older player changing his style of play. It's never too late to learn.
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #177
                          Re: The Bald Eagle

                          my view: I've read this thread & some of the comments directed at Eagleton are quite unsavoury. He's respected heavily within the Bulldog ranks & the scrutiny he has been placed under here is completely different to how he is thought of at Whitten Oval. He will not be dropped at a whim as he does the job asked of him each week.

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                          • Cyberdoggie
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 2861

                            #178
                            Re: The Bald Eagle

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            Sorry to all for my persistent de-grading of Eagleton's performances. I will heed the advice of posters who opinions I respect and stop posting on this player as I get the feeling my views and posts are becoming tiresome.

                            Lets hope that the team performs well this week and that Nathan performs his role in the team at such level that is satisfactory to all.

                            Cheers

                            Mantis.
                            I can't believe it's just me and you against everyone else on this issue.

                            I find it ironic that someone can have so many threads about him.

                            You get the "Eagle is rubbish" threads, and the "Eagle is great" threads. People will love or hate him, so i ask why?

                            We don't go debating whether players like Cross, Griffen, Boyd, Gilbee are great or awful, but for some reason Eagle's name keeps coming up.

                            To me this is basically because he is so inconsistent. There is such a divide between his best and his worst, and that is why he is a hot topic. Some will love his good stuff and forgive his bad, others like me and Mantis cannot forgive the rubbish he serves up, even after a few good highlights.

                            I think his negative's far exceed his positive's and i cannot see why such a player can continue in the side when there may be others that can perform better.

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              #179
                              Re: The Bald Eagle

                              Originally posted by Charmdog
                              my view: I've read this thread & some of the comments directed at Eagleton are quite unsavoury. He's respected heavily within the Bulldog ranks & the scrutiny he has been placed under here is completely different to how he is thought of at Whitten Oval. He will not be dropped at a whim as he does the job asked of him each week.
                              Thanks CD for your input. It's good to have strong support, in supporting Nathan.

                              Some (newer) members might start to pay particular attention to CD if you read the authority with which the post speaks.

                              This thread was designed to acknowledge the improvement and good things he was doing this year.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 15118

                                #180
                                Re: The Bald Eagle

                                Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
                                I can't believe it's just me and you against everyone else on this issue.

                                I find it ironic that someone can have so many threads about him.

                                You get the "Eagle is rubbish" threads, and the "Eagle is great" threads. People will love or hate him, so i ask why?

                                We don't go debating whether players like Cross, Griffen, Boyd, Gilbee are great or awful, but for some reason Eagle's name keeps coming up.

                                To me this is basically because he is so inconsistent. There is such a divide between his best and his worst, and that is why he is a hot topic. Some will love his good stuff and forgive his bad, others like me and Mantis cannot forgive the rubbish he serves up, even after a few good highlights.

                                I think his negative's far exceed his positive's and i cannot see why such a player can continue in the side when there may be others that can perform better.
                                CD, I would expect that there are two main reasons for this:

                                a. He is scrutinised far more harshly than any other player on the list, simply because his first season did not match his reputation. A player's first season reputation tends to follow them for the rest of their career, justified or not. I would expect some of the consternation comes from the fact that few players could survive the scrutiny that Nathan is placed under with their reputation intact.

                                b. Which player that is not currently in the side could perform better? I can't see one, without knowing how an untried player will perform at AFL level.
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