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  • AndrewP6
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2009
    • 8142

    #361
    Re: The Bald Eagle

    Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
    It should have counted as holding-the-ball. It took Hayes about 3 seconds to shrug him off before he got rid of it.
    Agreed, I thought he had the famous "prior opportunity"... must've come under the Judd Exception...
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    • Sockeye Salmon
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6365

      #362
      Re: The Bald Eagle

      Originally posted by AndrewP6
      Agreed, I thought he had the famous "prior opportunity"... must've come under the Judd Exception...
      I think the umpire expected Hayes to break Eagleton's tackle and gave him a few extra seconds to do it.

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      • Rocco Jones
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jun 2008
        • 6988

        #363
        Re: The Bald Eagle

        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
        I think the umpire expected Hayes to break Eagleton's tackle and gave him a few extra seconds to do it.
        They apply that rule to anyone tackling Chris Judd.

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        • Bulldog Joe
          Premiership Moderator
          • Jul 2009
          • 5631

          #364
          Re: The Bald Eagle

          Unfortunately Eagle, for all his hard running simply fumbled the ball and almost set the tone for others to do so. had at least 2 opportunities in the clear in the first qtr where he failed to handle cleanly and lost possession. I have supported his retention all year but was very disappointed with his performance in an important game.
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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15548

            #365
            Re: The Bald Eagle

            Originally posted by Rocco Jones
            With Freo and West Coast back to back at home, Eagle will probably rack up consecutive 20+ disposal and 2 goals games that will make him look a lot better than he actually is.
            How he goes against Brisbane, Geelong & Collingwood in our last 3 games should give us a better idea of if he can pick up his game such that he can make an impact during the finals.

            He has a few mates who have to do likewise.

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            • comrade
              Hall of Fame
              • Jun 2008
              • 18103

              #366
              Re: The Bald Eagle

              Originally posted by Mantis
              How he goes against Brisbane, Geelong & Collingwood in our last 3 games should give us a better idea of if he can pick up his game such that he can make an impact during the finals.

              He has a few mates who have to do likewise.
              I think we already know how he'll go against those 3 teams - the same as he went against Collingwood, Hawthorn and St Kilda.

              He doesn't deserve more opportunities to let us down.
              Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 15120

                #367
                Re: The Bald Eagle

                Eagle would have been one of our better players last night. He was poor early, however so were many others (and we know Eagle gets marked harder than most, if not all).
                In the third & 4th quarters he worked hard & ran hard (certainly went alot harder than he had in the past few weeks) and found himself on the bottom of a couple of packs in the F50.
                He would have done enough to keep his spot - you don't lay 7 tackles unless you're working hard.
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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 15120

                  #368
                  Re: The Bald Eagle

                  Originally posted by bulldogsman
                  BEST
                  St Kilda: Goddard, Riewoldt, Milne, Blake, Hayes, Gwilt, Dal Santo, Schneider, Hudghton
                  Western Bulldogs: Boyd, Hargrave, Cross, Ward, Minson, Eagleton

                  Haha what a joke
                  Why? Who was better?
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                  • Rocco Jones
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 6988

                    #369
                    Re: The Bald Eagle

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    Eagle would have been one of our better players last night. He was poor early, however so were many others (and we know Eagle gets marked harder than most, if not all).
                    In the third & 4th quarters he worked hard & ran hard (certainly went alot harder than he had in the past few weeks) and found himself on the bottom of a couple of packs in the F50.
                    He would have done enough to keep his spot - you don't lay 7 tackles unless you're working hard.
                    This might sound odd from a person who wants Eagle out of the side but I actually think his workrate has been decent enough. As you said, 7 tackles is pretty good and he offers more run than the younger options.

                    My issues with Eagle relate to his hands and decision making whenever he is under the slightest pressure. How many times does he fumble when he is under pressure or handball to a 50/50 to get himself out of trouble?

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 15120

                      #370
                      Re: The Bald Eagle

                      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                      My issues with Eagle relate to his hands and decision making whenever he is under the slightest pressure. How many times does he fumble when he is under pressure or handball to a 50/50 to get himself out of trouble?
                      In the first half - quite alot. The issue is every player was doing it, so it is unfair to single out Eagle when part of it was St Kilda's pressure. He lifted substantially in the seond half to me.
                      I still think he is terrible overhead and one-sided, but his workrate is higher than many others at the moment, and there isn't anyone at Willy who can play his role. I'd love to say we had a fit winger / outside player with a penetrating kick pushing for selection, but unfortunately we don't.
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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15548

                        #371
                        Re: The Bald Eagle

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        In the first half - quite alot. The issue is every player was doing it, so it is unfair to single out Eagle when part of it was St Kilda's pressure. He lifted substantially in the seond half to me.
                        I still think he is terrible overhead and one-sided, but his workrate is higher than many others at the moment, and there isn't anyone at Willy who can play his role. I'd love to say we had a fit winger / outside player with a penetrating kick pushing for selection, but unfortunately we don't.
                        If kicking is his greatest why did he have a 30:70 kick to handball ratio last night? Personally I think his kicking is severely over-rated.

                        Agree that his work-rate was better than quite a few of his team-mates, but I think this would be expected coming off 3 quiet games.

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 15120

                          #372
                          Re: The Bald Eagle

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          If kicking is his greatest why did he have a 30:70 kick to handball ratio last night? Personally I think his kicking is severely over-rated.
                          Pressure from the opposition, and he seems to be playing a more inside role. Both are probably related.

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          Agree that his work-rate was better than quite a few of his team-mates, but I think this would be expected coming off 3 quiet games.
                          It should be expected all the time. If we had a wingman banging the door down at Willy I'm not sure he would have played last night. In any case, we don't have anyone banging the door down for an opportunity the way Reid did a few weeks back. Regardless, I can't believe there is more heat on Eagle than there is on Hill who has been worse for a month, both in effect on the game & effort.

                          Makes you wonder what would have happened if Wood had an injury free season.
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                          • Missing Dog
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8501

                            #373
                            Re: The Bald Eagle

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            Why? Who was better?
                            Hudson, Picken, Aker, Griffen, Cooney just off the top of my head.

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                            • Mantis
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 15548

                              #374
                              Re: The Bald Eagle

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              Pressure from the opposition, and he seems to be playing a more inside role. Both are probably related.
                              That is the main one.

                              He isn't playing an inside role, but the opposition are closing him down much easier forcing him to handball.

                              Everyone know's that he loves to swing around on his left so the good clubs don't allow this. The fact that he has lost a bit of his acceleration makes it harder also to break free.

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 15120

                                #375
                                Re: The Bald Eagle

                                Originally posted by bulldogsman
                                Hudson, Picken, Aker, Griffen, Cooney just off the top of my head.
                                Griffen played half a game if that, Cooney was tagged out of it although did well when he tagged Hayes in H2, Picken was ok (maybe better considering it was his first season), Aker went missing and we lost the ruck battle.

                                You also have to consider most journalists don't have a seething pathological desire to deride Eagleton at every opportunity and tend to at least try to hold a balanced view.
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