Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

[AndrewP6]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

Agree we had to send someone in but also agree it didn't go to plan. Aker made Rose look like an imbecile. And Rose just kept repeating himself in regards to the trust thing, just sounded like a rehearsed speel. This whole thing has really reflected badly on the club. I just pray to god things don't start falling apart on the field. If so, we're toast

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[comrade]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

But surely the point of having him there would be to provide more information, or reasons for the sacking? He simply parrotted the trust stuff from the presser, and in the process showed his best work is done in the office, and that he has little if any idea of what actually happens with the PEOPLE at the club. He's a bean counter. Aker looked lost and confused because he's just lost his job and felt that the reason/s for the sacking were not adequately explained - apart from the airy-fairy trust line which doesn't actually say much.

Mate, you're as passionate as they come and it's great, but you've bought into Aker's victim act hook, line and sinker.

Rose is a professional and wasn't going to get drawn into a tit for tat verbal stoush on live TV, outlining Aker's every indiscretion.

The fact that Aker is trumpeting that he had no idea it was coming, and he wants proof says more about his almost narcissistic ability to deny anything is his fault and the constant blaming of everyone else for his woes. He even suggested he wasn't sacked from Brisbane!

Aker is a media personality and has the means to voice his side of the story - one that benefits him and him only. Don't forget there are two sides to every story.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

Mate, you're as passionate as they come and it's great, but you've bought into Aker's victim act hook, line and sinker.

Rose is a professional and wasn't going to get drawn into a tit for tat verbal stoush on live TV, outlining Aker's every indiscretion.

Don't know that he'd be capable of it...

Aker is a media personality and has the means to voice his side of the story - one that benefits him and him only. Don't forget there are two sides to every story.

True, but until the club presents a better one, I'm going with the one that's out there.

[G-Mo77]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

But surely the point of having him there would be to provide more information, or reasons for the sacking? He simply parrotted the trust stuff from the presser, and in the process showed his best work is done in the office, and that he has little if any idea of what actually happens with the PEOPLE at the club. He's a bean counter. Aker looked lost and confused because he's just lost his job and felt that the reason/s for the sacking were not adequately explained - apart from the airy-fairy trust line which doesn't actually say much.

So what would you rather air more dirty laundry?

We were going to lose the PR battle from the get go, it was an obvious no win situation and Campbell Rose didn't not give those twits on the footy show anything at all. He was the best man for the job and I thought he handled it quite well.

While you might think the "Trust" issue is nothing there was a guy on the panel tonight from his old club who thought it was massive issue also. I'll take his word over anyone else on there tonight. Aker has been let go for the exact same reason from 2 clubs now. Once this all blows over, and believe me it will, Aker will come out looking like the dill not Campbell Rose and not the Western Bulldogs.

[comrade]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

True, but until the club presents a better one, I'm going with the one that's out there.

That's what Aker is banking on.

[Jasper]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

Rose is a professional and wasn't going to get drawn into a tit for tat verbal stoush on live TV, outlining Aker's every indiscretion.

Would you concede that agreeing to appear on national television with a mouthy bloke with no self insight who you have just sacked on one side of you, and Sam Newman on your other side, was neither smart or professional??

[G-Mo77]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

Would you concede that agreeing to appear on national television with a mouthy bloke with no self insight who you have just sacked on one side of you, and Sam Newman on your other side, was neither smart or professional??

Would we have looked any better if we didn't have a representative?

[comrade]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

Would you concede that agreeing to appear on national television with a mouthy bloke with no self insight who you have just sacked on one side of you, and Sam Newman on your other side, was neither smart or professional??

I've already conceded that it wasn't smart.

Rose was professional/diplomatic enough not to get drawn into a back and forth stoush, which probably benefited Aker from a PR perspective.

[Before I Die]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

But surely the point of having him there would be to provide more information, or reasons for the sacking? He simply parrotted the trust stuff from the presser, and in the process showed his best work is done in the office, and that he has little if any idea of what actually happens with the PEOPLE at the club. He's a bean counter. Aker looked lost and confused because he's just lost his job and felt that the reason/s for the sacking were not adequately explained - apart from the airy-fairy trust line which doesn't actually say much.

I actually think "the trust line" is everything. He hasn't been sacked for a particular text, or leak, or newspaper article or radio interview. He has been sacked because the playing group don't trust him anymore with regard to the agreed club code. The whole concept of team is about trust. You don't have to like your teammates or even consider them to be good people. But you have to believe that you can trust them with regard to all things football.

[Jasper]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

Would we have looked any better if we didn't have a representative?

Yes.

Other Better Options:

1 - Rose appears prior to or after Aker being on set
2 - Rose pre-records an interview

Worst option:

What happened...

The only good thing is that at least the club is protecting the players and coaches from this circus.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

I actually think "the trust line" is everything. He hasn't been sacked for a particular text, or leak, or newspaper article or radio interview. He has been sacked because the playing group don't trust him anymore with regard to the agreed club code. The whole concept of team is about trust. You don't have to like your teammates or even consider them to be good people. But you have to believe that you can trust them with regard to all things football.

Aker must've trusted the club when they agreed to the "clean slate" thing...which Rose seemed to be trying backpedal from tonight.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

I think Campbell Rose did very well. Anybody closer to the playing group may have gotten drawn into the “tit for tat” stuff that the Footy Show boys were hunting for. They wanted to hear “Johnno said this” or “Brian Lake said that” so they'd have more news and shit to write/talk about. They were obviously of no mind to resolve the situation as they didn't attempt it once. Brayshaw was the most circumspect, and probably because he's a club president and understands both sides of the fence better than two former players in Lyon and Sam.

Jonathan Brown was very hard at Sam, you could tell he was upset with Sam Newman and the line Sam was taking.

Not having a representative, and shying away from the confrontation makes us look like BP in the Gulf Oil Crisis. Taking it head on and inviting the open discussion, on live TV where it can't be said to be rehearsed, whilst it didn't look 100% great for the club does give us the legitimacy — if/when Aker mounts another challenge in the future, we can simply say, “We appeared live on TFS to explain our position, we didn't have to do that and we've done enough, go away.”

[G-Mo77]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

Aker must've trusted the club when they agreed to the "clean slate" thing...which Rose seemed to be trying backpedal from tonight.

He has been sacked because the playing group do not trust him! Did you not listen to Campbell Rose or the guy you just quoted?

That whole clean slate thing is completely irrelevant.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

He has been sacked because the playing group do not trust him! Did you not listen to Campbell Rose or the guy you just quoted?

That whole clean slate thing is completely irrelevant.

Maybe I'd have had more luck listening to Rose if he was the slightest bit convincing.

One of the "reasons" given in the press conference was the series of breaches over a period of time. That's where the clean slate comes in. They gave his behavioural breaches (I think 18 months was the timeframe) as reasons for the sacking. Tonight Rose put it simply down to the loss of trust, and said nothing of the behavioural breaches.

[Before I Die]

Re: Campbell Rose - PR Flunky

Aker must've trusted the club when they agreed to the "clean slate" thing...which Rose seemed to be trying backpedal from tonight.

I agree with you on this one. I think it is likely that this may have been the suits agreeing to a clean slate without really considering whether the playing group felt the same way. I am not saying the club hasn't made mistakes along the way with Aker, but I believe the sacking would not have been done if it was not a necessity. I also believe the club has handled it well. Not that that means there won't be any further fallout.

The one thing that was confusing me over the past few weeks was how strong Luke Darcy has been on the "Aker must go" line. He is obviously very close to the playing group and it is now clear just how unhappy they have been.

This won't be worthy of a headline by the middle of next week, unless you listen to MTR. AKER SACKED is a four year old story.