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  • Desipura
    WOOF Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 4344

    Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

    Originally posted by strebla
    I was thinking the same thing myself Scraggers I really did not enjoy that quote at all!!
    Poor choice of words, no doubt.

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15322

      Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

      Originally posted by chef
      How did Mulligan go JC?
      I had heard that he competed well and beat his opponents, but his ball use wasn't the best.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

        Originally posted by AndrewP6
        After the letdown of 2010, my lid is nailed on.
        Originally posted by Gus
        I'll keep a lid on it on bigfooty, but this is our club's online forum. We can get as hyped up as we want because there are no nosey opposition supporters butting in
        I've always said, we're a club who can get as excited as we like, because we all know we can handle the disappointment if we must — we're all still here, right?

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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

          What about Barlow? Been a while since we had such a Beasly like shock of blonde locks at the club!
          His running is rated pretty highly.
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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66127

            Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

            Originally posted by Mantis
            I had heard that he competed well and beat his opponents, but his ball use wasn't the best.
            Report in the paper that he did a groin?
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            • BulldogBelle
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 5284

              Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

              Originally posted by chef
              How did Mulligan go JC?

              Mulligan had a bit of speed and spring in his step. Looks a bit like Grant. I didn't notice him much.

              I think that only white guys take offense when you call a black guy a black guy. When I saw Zeph take that spectacular mark, in the first instance I could only recognise that it was a black guy. Didn't know who it was at first, just that he was black - that was a standout. I can't say that he was indigenous because for all I know he may have been from Africa. What would you 'black' sensitive people have me do, just button my lip or say that I don't just yet recognise him?

              Most black guys I know are proud to be black. President of USA is black, fastest man and woman in the world are black, biggest TV show host in the world is black, world's biggest movie box office attractions are black and so the list goes on. Remember when Nicky Winmar pulled up his jumper and pointed to his skin and said to the world, "I am black and I am proud of it!" Some people need to get their sensitivities straight.


              Last edited by BulldogBelle; 07-03-2011, 07:34 PM.

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              • AndrewP6
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2009
                • 8142

                Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

                Originally posted by BornAScragger
                I've always said, we're a club who can get as excited as we like, because we all know we can handle the disappointment if we must — we're all still here, right?
                Good point, but I'd rather keep it on just the same.
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                • The Underdog
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 6801

                  Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

                  Originally posted by James Cuming
                  I think that only white guys take offense when you call a black guy a black guy. Most black guys I know are proud to be black. President of USA is black, fastest man and woman in the world are black, biggest TV show host in the world is black, world's biggest movie box office attractions are black and so the list goes on. Remember when Nicky Winmar pulled up his jumper and pointed to his skin and said to the world, "I am black and I am proud of it!" Some people need to get their sensitivities straight.

                  While I'm not that fussed about delicate sensibilities, the term black in the original context was kind of unnecessary. His skin colour was irrelevant to his deed.
                  And the reason Winmar needed to make the point was because he was being subjected to incredible racist taunts from Collingwood supporters. My point being that if we don't feel the need to use skin colour as a descriptor then it becomes less of an issue, delicate sensibilities or not.

                  Sorry for contributing to take the thread off topic.
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                  • BulldogBelle
                    WOOF Member
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 5284

                    Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

                    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                    What about Barlow? Been a while since we had such a Beasly like shock of blonde locks at the club!
                    His running is rated pretty highly.
                    Barlow did run around a bit but didn't star.

                    The next most outstanding thing in the match apart from Zeph was Jones. Jones held onto many of his marks and took several high contested marks.

                    I think that the difference between Fremantle and us were that we moved the ball with more skill and precision and we had dominant forwards in Zeph and Jones.

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                    • BulldogBelle
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 5284

                      Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

                      Originally posted by The Underdog
                      While I'm not that fussed about delicate sensibilities, the term black in the original context was kind of unnecessary. His skin colour was irrelevant to his deed.
                      And the reason Winmar needed to make the point was because he was being subjected to incredible racist taunts from Collingwood supporters. My point being that if we don't feel the need to use skin colour as a descriptor then it becomes less of an issue, delicate sensibilities or not.

                      Sorry for contributing to take the thread off topic.


                      His skin colour was directly related to what I saw. I saw a black man take that mark. It was the most obvious and notable thing. Initially I didn't recognise who it was but I knew he was black and everybody else did too.

                      Your statement, "His skin colour was irrelevant to his deed." is a nice little twist, you should be one of those shifty lawyers who tie up witnesses. Nasty piece there. Your statement is meant to make the reader believe that I in the first instance did say that his deed was related to his skin colour. Otherwise why would you mention it. Trying to suggest some racism on my part. It wasn't his deed that was related to his skin colour it was what I saw. What I saw. So your whole argument is based on a false premise.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44313

                        Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

                        Can't we just all get along?

                        What has been said has been said. JC did not intend there to be any racist interpretation, but it was open to that view all the same. No justification will change that.
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                        • Desipura
                          WOOF Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 4344

                          Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

                          JC obviously did not mean anything by his comment however when I first read it, it did not read well and it still does not.
                          Would have been wiser for JC to state that he apologises if it anyone has taken offense as it was not his intention, instead he has gone on the defensive and repeated what he initially said, that was not necessary IMHO

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                          • G-Mo77
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9873

                            Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

                            Anyone see the 7pm Project? They showed Hudson pulling the gate shut when they were running out and Tutt was on the receiving end when he ran into the gate.

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                            • The Underdog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6801

                              Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

                              Originally posted by James Cuming
                              His skin colour was directly related to what I saw. I saw a black man take that mark. It was the most obvious and notable thing. Initially I didn't recognise who it was but I knew he was black and everybody else did too.

                              Your statement, "His skin colour was irrelevant to his deed." is a nice little twist, you should be one of those shifty lawyers who tie up witnesses. Nasty piece there. Your statement is meant to make the reader believe that I in the first instance did say that his deed was related to his skin colour. Otherwise why would you mention it. Trying to suggest some racism on my part. It wasn't his deed that was related to his skin colour it was what I saw. What I saw. So your whole argument is based on a false premise.
                              I apologise if you think I was trying to be shifty or suggest you were racist. My point was more related to how I feel in general that it would be better if race or skin colour wasn't used as the first point of call in describing people. I understand why you used it in your description, particularly for a new player, at a distance and don't think it was intended in any nasty way.
                              I think we can end this here and go back to the topic of a game that probably also needs little further discussion.
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                              • The Underdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 6801

                                Re: Dogs v Freo in Bunbury

                                Originally posted by G-Mo77
                                Anyone see the 7pm Project? They showed Hudson pulling the gate shut when they were running out and Tutt was on the receiving end when he ran into the gate.
                                Saw it, pretty funny, although glad he wasn't seriously injured. He didn't see it until it was well too late to stop.
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