Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

[westdog54]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Or is it his attitude toward training that is affecting his fitness? I can't understand if he's been training at 100% intensity for the past 12 weeks how he can still be so unfit. Something doesn't add up.

On the Dog's Day forum there is a story about him settling his legal dispute with the Bald Eagle. We can only hope that this can become a catalyst for a lift in his mental fitness.

[ratsmac]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

We will never succeed as long as we are not prepared to drop any underperforming players, without reservation, if needed and that means ANYONE - even Cross / Boyd etc.

Amen to that!

[chef]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

What exactly has Leon Cameron done at the Bulldogs or Hawthorn that has you convinced he is the right man for the job?

Any specific examples of structures, game plans or examples of his ability to man manage?

He made our mid field one of the best in the league(ans he is now doing the same with Hawthorn). He has been a huge loss IMO.

[Bumper Bulldogs]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Pretty harsh on Murphy. Would probably be winning our B&F atm. Cross is the other harsh one, but i understand the justification with him, especially when you consider the mixture of similiar players at the club (hard at it one paced players like Boyd, Addison, Ward, Reid, Liberatore).

Don't get me wrong I agree Murphy has been fantastic, my concern is more around the talk that he is going to have a short career due to the knee problems he has. I just think they need to have a back up plan as I'm not convinced that as the years go past he could play 20 games a year.

[westdog54]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

To think Eade wasn't pushed is to be naive

Perhaps, but he saw that his situation was untenable and walked, and it was a good decision in the circumstances. He wasn't dismissed by press release. If things haven't turned around then quite frankly I'd trust him to do the same. Eade seems like he'd be the type of bloke who's wise enough to know when he can do no more.

The point that was being made was that clubs with good cultures don't sack the coach mid-season. While there may have been some pushing that's completely different to simply sacking the coach.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

The bad loss to the Eagles last week was a culmination of poor decision making by Eade over the course of his tenure. At the time of his appointment as coach of The Bulldogs I thought that Eade was President of the Dumb Coaches Association. I have already given my reasons why I thought that Eade has lead a charmed life (ie his questionable coaching successes have been due to the influence of other people) and have previously outlined a number of his critical errors and lost opportunities.

Rather than declare that Eade is perhaps one of the most successful coaches in our history, taking us to 3 successive preliminary finals I would rather say that he has been one of the most disastrous coaches in our history and due to his poor coaching has screwed up 3 successive grandfinals.

When you make the right decisions instead of the wrong decisions you live in a completely different world.

I am very disappointed by the lack of outrage from several of the frequent posters on this forum. It was outrage from the Sydney supporters that forced Eade to resign.

Last Saturday after the match I was fortunate to run into two guys who were Bulldog employees and I gave them a lift back to their hotel. One was to do with memberships and the other equipment. I made several suggestions to them with messages for the coach, all the way back to their hotel. But, could they give a rats? No! One of them barracked for Collingwood and the other Richmond. They reckoned that there must have been a policy at the club not to employ supporters, who might like the players better than doing their job.

When we get a new coach I would hope that we employ a professional recruitment company which takes into account the candidate's intelligence. We would not have their best mates on the selection panel.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

The bad loss to the Eagles last week was a culmination of poor decision making by Eade over the course of his tenure. At the time of his appointment as coach of The Bulldogs I thought that Eade was President of the Dumb Coaches Association. I have already given my reasons why I thought that Eade has lead a charmed life (ie his questionable coaching successes have been due to the influence of other people) and have previously outlined a number of his critical errors and lost opportunities.

Rather than declare that Eade is perhaps one of the most successful coaches in our history, taking us to 3 successive preliminary finals I would rather say that he has been one of the most disastrous coaches in our history and due to his poor coaching has screwed up 3 successive grandfinals.

When you make the right decisions instead of the wrong decisions you live in a completely different world.

I am very disappointed by the lack of outrage from several of the frequent posters on this forum. It was outrage from the Sydney supporters that forced Eade to resign.

Last Saturday after the match I was fortunate to run into two guys who were Bulldog employees and I gave them a lift back to their hotel. One was to do with memberships and the other equipment. I made several suggestions to them with messages for the coach, all the way back to their hotel. But, could they give a rats? No! One of them barracked for Collingwood and the other Richmond. They reckoned that there must have been a policy at the club not to employ supporters, who might like the players better than doing their job.

When we get a new coach I would hope that we employ a professional recruitment company which takes into account the candidate's intelligence. We would not have their best mates on the selection panel.

What were those decisions?

There are quite a few posters here who are ready to be done with Rodney. When backed up with logic, their views are good to read, while not always agreeing with the points. Tend to skip outrage.
Clearly we are all done with the top four 'glass ceiling'.

[Mantis]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

He made our mid field one of the best in the league(ans he is now doing the same with Hawthorn). He has been a huge loss IMO.

Leon is the forwardline coach at Hawthorn.

[Sedat]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Rather than declare that Eade is perhaps one of the most successful coaches in our history, taking us to 3 successive preliminary finals I would rather say that he has been one of the most disastrous coaches in our history and due to his poor coaching has screwed up 3 successive grandfinals.

2008 PF - opponent Geelong. Record 22-1. Structure up to take advantage of Geelong's defrenders peeling off. Higgins kicks 1.4 in 1st qtr on Milburn. Dogs dominate general play for most of 2nd half, kicking 0.8, 3 OOF and one from Eagle that doesn't make the distance from 35m dead in front. Oh, and two of our most important line-breakers Cooney and Murphy had fractured kneecaps. Rank outsider was 2 goals down and pressing hard approaching time-on in the last qtr and were finally killed off by wretched non-decision against Rooke on Johnson.

2009 PF - opponent St Kilda. Record 22-1. Some inspired structural match-ups (Murphy on Gilbert, Griffen on Goddard) wreak havoc on a team that conceded an average of 35 inside 50's for the season (Dogs get it inside 50 almost 60 times for the match). Gilbert terrorised and turned into a liability, ditto Goddard. Raph Clarke pulls the only excellent game he's ever had in his career out of his arse. Diving blone forward and umpire craving the spotlight conspire to shift momentum at a critical stage. Oh, and Reiwoldt's direct opponent had a fractured leg. Saints also kick 6 of 9 goals from frees, some dubious to say the least. Rank outsider who outplayed favourite and was extremely unlucky not to record a famous win.

2010 PF - opponent St Kilda. Grand finalist, one bad bouce from being premiers. Dogs had 9 players requiring surgery the week after, yet conspired to restrict fitter and fresher opponent to 4 goals in the first half, again with excellent structure and tactics. Team shot and blown away after half time to the surprise of nobody.

Failed post on so many levels it's laughable.

[GVGjr]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

He made our mid field one of the best in the league(ans he is now doing the same with Hawthorn). He has been a huge loss IMO.

I actually think it's been a blessing to have him go to the Hawks. I just don't think he has the temperament or the communication skills to add value to a club as a senior assistant coach let alone as a head coach.

[GVGjr]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Terrific post Sedat and spot on.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

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I am very disappointed by the lack of outrage from several of the frequent posters on this forum. It was outrage from the Sydney supporters that forced Eade to resign.

It was also the fact that Sydney told him he wouldn't be reappointed

[Missing Dog]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Terrific post Sedat and spot on.

what he said.

[Greystache]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Just what are you getting at Sedat?

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Candidacy - Senior Coach - Western Bulldogs

Eade for mine is still the best person to coach the Doggies. Our situation this season is a combination of things whcih Eade can control and things that Eade can't control. Of the things he has been able to control he is at least breakeven.

Yes he hasn't come up with a game style that copes with the Press, but is it really that easy to change a system without changing the whole team? Some posters here assume that in a matter of one pre-season you can radically alter the way in whcih a team is structured and take players who have no foot speed and implant the genes of a 100m runner. You can't. Hence Eade plays a game plan which suits the type of players we have.

People forget that we lost over 1000 games of experience at the end of last season and have played without a further 500 games of experience for much of this year. No matter how talented the kids are they need the hard bodies and experienced heads around them to guide them. Just look at how long it has taken Carlton's kids to come good. Same with the Dee's.

I really believe that this season is a step back to take a step forward. Getting games into guys like Wood, Stack, Jones, Libba and Wallis as well as cementing roles for guys like HIll, Minson, Ward and Higgins will pay long term dividends. We can sack Eade now and restart and maybe, just maybe we will make the top 4 (though I doubt it). Most likely if we sack Eade now it will be more of the same dribble for the rest of the season as fringe guys start to play for their place on the list.

What Eade does need to do though, and I believe he has started doing this, is assessing who will be at the club at the end of 2011.