Callan Ward - Should he stay or should he go?

[Mofra]

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Interesting to note how many Bulldogs live in Footscray (or some would call it Little Vietnam/Somalia)??

I regularly see Minson, Murphy and Hudson in Carlton...don't reckon its that relevant. If you are in your early twenties and on $800k a year, a commute doesn't matter.

Carlton/Fitzroy to Footscray is nothing compared to driving halfway across Sydney. Quite a few players live in Maidstone IIRC

The question of family is another important one - Harbrow had family in Queensland which heklped make his decision easier, ditto Ablett. The Wards are all locals which make the $$$ not the only consideration.

[ledge]

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Hundreds of thousands of dollars will cushion that, just like all the poor bastards who are forced to commute to multinational IT and pharmaceutical companies out in the north west.

But he isnt forced to, he has an option to stay at the dogs with his mates and family and will still be paid well, he already has a house here.

[Maddog37]

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He is staying. I can feel it in my bones.

GWS is really gonna be pushing shit up hill to recruit players. Taylor walker and Reese Palmer are not exactly a graders IMO.

[Dog54]

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But he isnt forced to, he has an option to stay at the dogs with his mates and family and will still be paid well, he already has a house here.

You can live in the eastern suburbs of Sydney on the beachand go against the traffic to training in 45 mins. I think he will stay but don't believe what people are saying about GWS being a shithole. Better climate in winter you can live on the water if you like.

[LostDoggy]

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I feel he will go and why wouldn't he. An offer like this is simply to good to set himself up.

I am more annoyed with the system whereby we lose one of our best young players last year to Gold Coast and potentially again this year to GWS. Clubs that haven't had premiership success for a long time should not be impacted by the establishment of the new clubs. The clubs that have won flag in the last 10 years should be the ones suffering the impact.

Here we are building a team for the future and we lose two of the future champions ..... with pretty ordinary compensation.

[Sedat]

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Here we are building a team for the future and we lose two of the future champions ..... with pretty ordinary compensation.

Sherman certainly classifies under this description.

[LostDoggy]

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He will stay. That is all. Bookmark this fellas.

[LostDoggy]

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Ward plays with his heart before his head, no reason to think he might make decisions the same way. Does anyone on the board have a very pretty daughter?

If I was his type I'd have a crack

So many articles are still giving me no indication of what his plans are. Well they're giving me an indication, being blatantly GWS emphasising, but I guess we really do have to wait.

This system is effed.

[LostDoggy]

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Seriously what would the bulldogs be offering a young 21 year old with good potential. I say potential because lets face it except for the Richmond game this year I haven't seen him overly influential in a game. He is just starting to rack up the numbers a good midfielder is expected to so what would we offer a guy like this? 300,000 maybe?

Therefore a offer if real for 700,000 a year over 5 years is exceptional and maybe even the Captain carrot as he is a leader type is thrown in. What would you do? I know I would be packing the bags and saying hello Sydney.

If offer true he is gone.

If not he will stay.

[bulldogsthru&thru]

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i honestly don't know what is going on with Ward. The media are just throwing crap all over the place. After reading this article http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-new...614-1g1y4.html a couple weeks ago i was almost 100% confident he was staying. After reading it would be HUGELY dissapointing if he left after saying he wanted to stay. Now this article sounds like he has gone.The longer it goes on the more it looks like he has gone

[FrediKanoute]

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Harbrow is happy as a pig in poo. Recall an article where he said Melbourne was 'doing his head in'.

Yeah, but recall also Harbrow's comments about looking around at his bacline colleages and realising how much he relied on Lake, hargrave, Morris ect for direction. Looking at how he drew inspiration for the intensity of this trainng from guys like Morris and \Boyd and then realising up n the GC those people weren't there.

What Ward needs to realise is that yes its a truck load of dough, but as a mature player in a new club he is going to earn every red cent of it. His game style is an in close midfielder which means he's going to be putting his body on the line more regularly than say a dash from the backline player like Harbrow. Currrently he has some hard bodies around him who take hits he doesn't ahve to take. At GWS, he'lll be doing that on behalf of his younger teamates.

He'll earn every penny if he goes.

[Raw Toast]

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Excellent article IMO about a system that has been @*&$3@#% at least temporarily by the AFL in a horribly cynical way.

I think his mother is pretty upset with the system as well, it was very interesting to get her perspective on things (even though she seemed more balanced than I'd prefer!).

I feel sick reading this. What are they doing to our game when an artificial soulless non identity of a club, put together just as a strategic plan to have AFL presence in certain key locations, can wave this amount of money around?

I'd felt so confident Cal Ward was going to stay. My disgust is not with him but the direction footy is headed in. How disillusioning for us loyal patient fans to see our club being shafted by this kind of system.

Completely agree. Just shocking, but the outcry will only come if someone like the Paddlepop Lion betrays the Pies. It's just sickening how ready the AFL is to rip the heart of what was left of loyalty and integrity in the competition.

I find the article is leading him away, just remember he might not get the money they are offering but he wont be poor either way, it will be a decent pay he will get at the dogs too.

I actually agree with some other posters that the article is subtly suggesting that he should stick to the Dogs and become something of a fairytale, heroic figure. There's lots of good reasons for him to stay, but seemingly something (an unfair bit over $2 million) for him to also sell his soul. For what it's worth, I still think he'll stay, but regardless, the whole situation is appalling.

[LostDoggy]

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Ward plays with his heart before his head, no reason to think he might make decisions the same way. Does anyone on the board have a very pretty daughter?

Western Sydney is not the nicest area to live in.

He needs to have a word to Harbrow about whether leaving was worth it. Remember though Harbrow went for family reasons, Wardy would be going for the cash. Its a lonely life in West Sydney

He'd probably live in a lovely northern beaches location and then commute out to that shit hole.

It will be a massive shock to the system for him if he does, and a lot of down time not being able to head home over the pre-season when he'll be required to do multiple sessions and meetings in a day.

Fair way to commute . The sport is unfortunately going the way of the world game. The have's have not's, silly wages. Hostile environment, hostile local media . AFL's Vietnam

With the kind of money they're talking about, he can live anywhere he wants, in a beautiful house on the beach, and drive his Maserati to work every day in total comfort. Those telling you that living in Western Sydney is a reason he'd stay here are pulling your leg.

That said, I reckon he'll stay. The club will promise him the captainship when he's ready and he'll hang around.

If he doesn't, we move on. No use bitching about it.

[LostDoggy]

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Excellent article IMO about a system that has been @*&$3@#% at least temporarily by the AFL in a horribly cynical way.

I think his mother is pretty upset with the system as well, it was very interesting to get her perspective on things (even though she seemed more balanced than I'd prefer!).



Completely agree. Just shocking, but the outcry will only come if someone like the Paddlepop Lion betrays the Pies. It's just sickening how ready the AFL is to rip the heart of what was left of loyalty and integrity in the competition.



I actually agree with some other posters that the article is subtly suggesting that he should stick to the Dogs and become something of a fairytale, heroic figure. There's lots of good reasons for him to stay, but seemingly something (an unfair bit over $2 million) for him to also sell his soul. For what it's worth, I still think he'll stay, but regardless, the whole situation is appalling.

With the prospect of finally having two teams in Sydney, competing with the NRL for TV and advertisement revenue, the AFL is hardly going to care about loyalty or integrity. Andrew Demetriou has always been about maximising the cash, he makes no apologies about it.

[LostDoggy]

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I actually agree with some other posters that the article is subtly suggesting that he should stick to the Dogs and become something of a fairytale, heroic figure. There's lots of good reasons for him to stay, but seemingly something (an unfair bit over $2 million) for him to also sell his soul. For what it's worth, I still think he'll stay, but regardless, the whole situation is appalling.

It's a total joke if we lose Harbrow and Ward. The only way I'd feel any sicker would be if Griffen hadn't signed. Thank heavens he's a keeper - just keeps improving. I suspect Ward will go as GWS are desperate to sign a decent player and I think Daisy will ultimately stay with the filth. I rekon they'll get Goddard too next year which is even sicker for that mob. The money varience for Ward sounds huge and he's met wih them twice now so he's seriously thinking about it. Can we offer them sherman instead please - made a booboo there me-thinks

If Ward stays he gets automatic legend status and we need to institute an immediate rule banning any whinging about him by dogs supporters for the duration of his career! Do the right thing Callan. We'll love ya for it!