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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15481

    #1246
    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    Originally posted by AndrewP6
    I believe "player Giansiracusa" is contracted. Won't happen.
    Has been reported on a basement wage, so perhaps it could be done. Reality is though he was our most dangerous forward option all year! Either we look at it not a great situation to be in.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • jeemak
      Bulldog Legend
      • Oct 2010
      • 22150

      #1247
      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      Originally posted by azabob
      Has been reported on a basement wage, so perhaps it could be done. Reality is though he was our most dangerous forward option all year! Either we look at it not a great situation to be in.
      The beautiful thing about it though he's likely to be our most dangerous one next year as well, failing that, the second most dangerous and he's going to cop more crap from the sidelines than he's copped in years when he wasn't in that position.

      Funny how things work, and I'm almost horrified by some of the things that are likely to be said about him amongst the crowd next year.
      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 67691

        #1248
        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        Originally posted by F'scary
        An important point. With the exception of the player Morris, they are all malfunctioning due to component over use and design faults. A decision needs to be made immediately about player Giansiracusa. He may need to be deactivated.
        The coach has already indicated he wants Gia to play on next year and mentor the younger players.
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        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • AndrewP6
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Jan 2009
          • 8142

          #1249
          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Originally posted by jeemak
          The beautiful thing about it though he's likely to be our most dangerous one next year as well, failing that, the second most dangerous and he's going to cop more crap from the sidelines than he's copped in years when he wasn't in that position.

          Funny how things work, and I'm almost horrified by some of the things that are likely to be said about him amongst the crowd next year.
          Agreed. I'm not a fan of the "he's slowed down, so let's flick him and fast track the new blokes" approach... Especially when it's a long serving stalwart we're talking about.
          [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 22150

            #1250
            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by AndrewP6
            Agreed. I'm not a fan of the "he's slowed down, so let's flick him and fast track the new blokes" approach... Especially when it's a long serving stalwart we're talking about.
            I think you'll find the same people that want to ditch Gia are the same guys (in the crowd) that abuse our lesser experienced players when they don't produce!

            If anything, Gia should be commended for putting his hand up as the main target of "supporter" vitriole for another year as well as topping the scoring for one more year!
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #1251
              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              Originally posted by F'scary
              An important point. With the exception of the player Morris, they are all malfunctioning due to component over use and design faults. A decision needs to be made immediately about player Giansiracusa. He may need to be deactivated.
              Obviously the other posters are not familiar with the Cybermen of Dr Who fame.

              I got a chuckle out of it anyway.....
              Last edited by LostDoggy; 19-09-2012, 08:42 AM.

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              • Bulldog4life
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 9607

                #1252
                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Originally posted by jeemak
                I think you'll find the same people that want to ditch Gia are the same guys (in the crowd) that abuse our lesser experienced players when they don't produce!

                If anything, Gia should be commended for putting his hand up as the main target of "supporter" vitriole for another year as well as topping the scoring for one more year!
                To me supporters that bag our players are the worse type of supporters that I experience at our games. Worse than the opposition supporters. I have had run ins with a few of them.

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                • Maddog37
                  WOOF Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 3132

                  #1253
                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Originally posted by jeemak
                  I think you'll find the same people that want to ditch Gia are the same guys (in the crowd) that abuse our lesser experienced players when they don't produce!

                  If anything, Gia should be commended for putting his hand up as the main target of "supporter" vitriole for another year as well as topping the scoring for one more year!
                  Not true Jeemak. I never, ever abuse our players and I am in the retire Gia camp.

                  He is a great player and very skilled but his motor is broken and when it does run it cannot function at a reasonable speed anymore.

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                  • Nuggety Back Pocket
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2064

                    #1254
                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    Originally posted by Maddog37
                    Not true Jeemak. I never, ever abuse our players and I am in the retire Gia camp.

                    He is a great player and very skilled but his motor is broken and when it does run it cannot function at a reasonable speed anymore.
                    Gia has probably reached his use by date in the same way as Gilbee and Hargrave. A pity that the MC were not able to negotiate him staying on in a mentoring/ teaching role to the younger players.

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 15116

                      #1255
                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                      Gia has probably reached his use by date in the same way as Gilbee and Hargrave. A pity that the MC were not able to negotiate him staying on in a mentoring/ teaching role to the younger players.
                      I thought the one year on base salary was a mentoring type deal, not dissimilar to Hahn's rookie year/Williamstown coaching role?

                      I'd be surprised if Dickson doesn't win our goalkicking award next year - Gia can't play through injury anymore.
                      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 22150

                        #1256
                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        I think you'll find the same people that want to ditch Gia are the same guys (in the crowd) that abuse our lesser experienced players when they don't produce!

                        If anything, Gia should be commended for putting his hand up as the main target of "supporter" vitriole for another year as well as topping the scoring for one more year!
                        Originally posted by Bulldog4life
                        To me supporters that bag our players are the worse type of supporters that I experience at our games. Worse than the opposition supporters. I have had run ins with a few of them.
                        Originally posted by Maddog37
                        Not true Jeemak. I never, ever abuse our players and I am in the retire Gia camp.

                        He is a great player and very skilled but his motor is broken and when it does run it cannot function at a reasonable speed anymore.
                        To clarify, I don't have any issues with those saying Gia has passed his use by date and should retire. There's plenty of arguments to be made for that.

                        I was solely referring to the baggers in the crowd who have always thought he should have been turfed, is no good, is soft etc. in my post.
                        TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                        • Cyberdoggie
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 2861

                          #1257
                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          I've been critical of Gia in the past but that has been when we were challenging for a flag. Now we are rebuilding and have a huge number of kids we need those senior players more than we think. Good leadership is crucial these next couple of years.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 67691

                            #1258
                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Update on Troy Menzel - source Herald Sun:

                            A FAMILY history of serious injuries could lead to draft prospect Troy Menzel plummeting down this year's order as clubs debate whether he is worth the risk of a first-round selection.

                            The younger brother of Geelong's Daniel Menzel has been regarded as a top-five pick on talent but is no certainty to be taken in the top 30 after having LARS surgery as a 16-year-old and breaking down again on Sunday.
                            FFC: Established 1883

                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              #1259
                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Update on Troy Menzel - source Herald Sun:
                              You wonder how his body would cope with the extra stress of AFL level footy?

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                              • The Bulldogs Bite
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 11407

                                #1260
                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Will be very interesting to see where he lands.
                                W00F!

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