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  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6932

    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
    Is Jacobs quick?
    No idea mate. Wasn't so much talking about Jacobs more so the growing view from our posters that we shouldn't go after inside mids.

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    • China Dog
      WOOF Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 64

      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      I would like to see us get involved in trading this year for some solid young guys, who have been in the AFL system for a couple of years - guys like Caddy, Toy, Jacobs, Rounds, Bell or Casboult. They all have developed bodies and could slot into our side immediately.

      We should try to trade out some of our under-performers like Sherman, Vezpremi or Grant to get some of these young guys to our club.

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      • azabob
        Hall of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 15332

        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        Originally posted by China Dog
        I would like to see us get involved in trading this year for some solid young guys, who have been in the AFL system for a couple of years - guys like Caddy, Toy, Jacobs, Rounds, Bell or Casboult. They all have developed bodies and could slot into our side immediately.

        We should try to trade out some of our under-performers like Sherman, Vezpremi or Grant to get some of these young guys to our club.
        Grant, Vez and Sherman have out performed all of the players you listed bar Caddy. If you are referring to Bell from Carlton both he and Casbault can't kick and the rest I wouldn't bother chasing.
        More of an In Bruges guy?

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        • G-Mo77
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Apr 2007
          • 9877

          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Originally posted by Rocco Jones
          Being an inside mid is an asset not a liablity. It's a lack of speed and/or skill that's a liability. You can never have too many inside mids with speed and/or skill.
          Fair call and I do agree with that assessment. I don't know enough about Jacobs to know if he's a quick player or not. I've only seen him a handful of times but I remember a Port supporter telling me how good his tank was. I think it was when I was inquiring for SC reasons.

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          • Missing Dog
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8501

            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by Throughandthrough
            I saw him absolutely dominate a state under 18 game 2 or 3 years ago (about 50 possessions) but dont think he has done a lot since. Does he need to muscle up?

            Would look at him at the right price, for sure.

            Not surprised he didnt enjoy his time at the Power, was treated like cr2p by some of his supposed "team mates" while on the Oval sometimes.
            Maybe they are giving him a bit of tough love? As a junior he went ball hunting far too much and had no defensive side to his game. I imagine the coaches ripped into him a fair bit and rightly so. It will take a while to coach that out of him and I'm guessing that's why he's struggled so far. It reminds me a lot of Bachar Houli actually and I think he's a similar sort of player in some ways (a bit different and possibly better). Half back/midfielder that uses the ball ok, his kicking does have some hurt factor but doesn't always hit it's mark. Very good overhead mark. Reads the play really well also and has the ability to intercept the play. Has a bit of pace, won't break any lines with it though.

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            • Throughandthrough
              Coaching Staff
              • Nov 2007
              • 3201

              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              Never seemed to get any on field support from
              The leaders at the club. Watch some of the matches from two years ago when the power were at their worst and he was playing his very first games.

              Maybe tough love but he always seemed to draw the short straw
              When opposition players were dominating and also left to kick in when the other teams were smashing them. Better and more experienced players were leaving a trail of smoke they were running away and hiding so
              Quickly

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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10165

                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Originally posted by Throughandthrough
                I saw him absolutely dominate a state under 18 game 2 or 3 years ago (about 50 possessions) but dont think he has done a lot since. Does he need to muscle up?

                Would look at him at the right price, for sure.

                Not surprised he didnt enjoy his time at the Power, was treated like cr2p by some of his supposed "team mates" while on the Oval sometimes.
                I was there that day, Norwood oval. I think he had close to 40 touches (it was actually 47 upon checking!) but he was very tidy by foot and had good speed.

                I'd be all over Jacobs, big time. I see him as a backline player rather than a midfielder.
                Last edited by Go_Dogs; 26-09-2012, 10:12 PM.
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14972

                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Originally posted by Griffen#16
                  I was there that day, Norwood oval. I think he had close to 40 touches (it was actually 47 upon checking!) but he was very tidy by foot and had good speed.

                  I'd be all over Jacobs, big time. I see him as a backline player rather than a midfielder.
                  There was a fair bit of hype pre-season about Jacobs (although I think half of it was by the Supercoach types looking for a bargain).

                  What would we have to trade for him though, knowing 5 & 6 are either off the table or part of a GWS Mini Draft offer? I don't think our second rounder will cut it, nor would Port be very interested in any of our fringe types.
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                  • Missing Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8501

                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    There was a fair bit of hype pre-season about Jacobs (although I think half of it was by the Supercoach types looking for a bargain).

                    What would we have to trade for him though, knowing 5 & 6 are either off the table or part of a GWS Mini Draft offer? I don't think our second rounder will cut it, nor would Port be very interested in any of our fringe types.
                    I dunno, pretty sure he's out of contract and if he nominates us I think pick 27 could do it. Maybe a downgrade of our later picks if need be.

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                    • Sockeye Salmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6365

                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Is Jacobs any different to Howard?

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14972

                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                        Is Jacobs any different to Howard?
                        Intensity & concentration wise, yes although I haven't seen enough of him play to be definiative.
                        I'm still not sold on Howard though.
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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66812

                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          I wouldn't mind having a go for Wellingham, still to sign with Pies.
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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 44697

                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            I wouldn't mind having a go for Wellingham, still to sign with Pies.
                            We would need to trade for him and I think the Pies would want a lot for him.
                            Do we have any players we could realistically trade?
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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10165

                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                              Is Jacobs any different to Howard?
                              Well, he's a proven elite U/18 level talent to start with.

                              I think they're quite different players and don't see any reason why we couldn't ultimately fit both into the side.
                              Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15332

                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                I wouldn't mind having a go for Wellingham, still to sign with Pies.
                                Im not so sure, his disposal is very iffy.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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