Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[LostDoggy]

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I'm getting a bit nervous because of how little we are getting from the senior blokes at the moment. Would it be worth elevating anyone to the leadership group? An out an out workhorse on the track and someone who gives consitency on the field. Young or old, don't care.

Is this another Picken captain thing GD?
But this time you want us to say it?

[Ghost Dog]

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Is this another Picken captain thing GD?
But this time you want us to say it?

No wasn't at all. You read that wrong. Just opening it up for debate.
I know some other clubs have some young players in their leadership groups.
And before you say it, I think Boyd is the right captain at the moment, hence my Avatar.

[GVGjr]

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I'm getting a bit nervous because of how little we are getting from the senior blokes at the moment ( in terms of skill level - Griff aside ) . Would it be worth elevating anyone to the leadership group?

So a leader must have a high skill level? I don't think the two are linked.
I think there is an argument to be had that says a leader must provide some inspiration (on and off the field) but I'm not sure skill levels would be a huge consideration.

Do we have any highly skilled players that could also provide strong leadership?

[Bulldog Joe]

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So a leader must have a high skill level? I don't think the two are linked.
I think there is an argument to be had that says a leader must provide some inspiration (on and off the field) but I'm not sure skill levels would be a huge consideration.

Do we have any highly skilled players that could also provide strong leadership?

Really is one of the problems. We do lack on field leadership and I don't see it in Boyd. He also struggles with the media side of things. Murphy would be a better option in my view.

Their is some potential in the younger group and having been at events and listened to Wallis and Roughead, I found them to be articulate young men.

Medium term I believe Higgins is the only real option to replace Boyd, given that Murphy is also close to retirement.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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I firmly believe Murphy should be captain.

[SlimPickens]

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I firmly believe Murphy should be captain.

Disagree Murph has been very ordinary this year. Now more than ever he needs to focus on his football.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Murph has been pretty solid until the last couple of weeks.
I think he should be captain as he seems to be..........
A. The heart and soul of the club.
B. The public face/spokesman for the club.
C. He is an inspiring, constructive player who plays with dash, flair and skill.

Watch all the boring kneekerks come out and say his disposal has been poor the last few weeks.
I know it has.......ho hum.

[Greystache]

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Disagree Murph has been very ordinary this year. Now more than ever he needs to focus on his football.

Agreed. Another poor season next year may have Murphy considering his long term future, not the ideal situation for a first year captain. The last thing we would want is a Brad Green scenario.

[LostDoggy]

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Very short sighted, Murphy has probably a year left to play.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I don't think Boyd fits the bill given how much he hurts the side through his disposal and his lack of media skill, but let's be honest, until somebody like Wallis is ready, he'll stay captain.

I didn't like Higgins as a leader last year -- all he did was point -- and I think we'd all rather he concentrate on his body/footy first.

[Rocco Jones]

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Cannot believe the lack of love for Bobby's season.

He is a massive victim of expectation. Say he gets 17 disposals and his opponent gets 12 and doesn't kick a goal, people will see that as a poor game from Bobby.

Due to the massive limitations of our team, Bob has made to be our primary small defensive stopper AND creative player. Bob is pigeon holed as a rebounding/creative defender and it seems like most fans just ignore what their opponents do, which is the reason I believe Bob's 2012 season has been underrated. Having a look at the last 7 games, his main opponent from each game total for just 1 goal overall (late goal from Milne). That's an amazing effort. Yes he may only get 17 or so touches but he absolutely blankets his opponent most weeks. It's an enormous sacrifice for most sides to play a guy on him who will get say 10 touches and 0 goals. It's not Bobby, it's everyone else around him! (bar Lake).

[azabob]

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Wallace would be good, but I get the feeling he may be hard to trust.

Aye?
Terry Wallace?

Yeah Terry Wallace, but as I said in my post you quoted, he'd most likely be hard to trust, but you left that bit out.

All in all Wallace had a great footy brain and at the time was at the forefront of the game.

[LostDoggy]

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Yeah Terry Wallace, but as I said in my post you quoted, he'd most likely be hard to trust, but you left that bit out.

All in all Wallace had a great footy brain and at the time was at the forefront of the game.

Because the hard to trust quote is obvious. The part that concerned me was the "Wallace would be good" part.
Forget trust, why would you want him back? He basically took a shit on our club. The players would not want a bar of him so how the hell would he "be good"?

[stefoid]

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Murph doesnt play a hugely contested game so barring the onset f serial soft tissue injuries (which can happen) I see no reason why he cant continue to play into his 30s.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Very short sighted, Murphy has probably a year left to play.

OK. Captain for a year then.