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  • Eastdog
    WOOF Communtiy Organiser
    • Feb 2012
    • 18379

    #676
    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    Originally posted by bulldogsman
    Yeah I do. I think he would be around the top 5 at least top 10 ruckman in the league this year. Do you really think McIntosh will be big upgrade on Minson? He's no Cox.

    There's plenty of holes in our list at the moment, but I can't see the ruck area being one of them.
    How about a key forward. That is a big hole we need to fill. 5 midfielders can equal 1 key forward so it's very difficult.
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 45581

      #677
      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      Originally posted by Eastdog
      I know he has actually been good this year but do you really rate Minson? Someone like Macintosh could be good for us as he is struggling to get a spot in the North team and is quite affective. Campbell looks good and has a future but he is still young and needs time to develop.
      I'm still lukewarm on the value that Campbell will offer and I think Minson is at least as good as MacIntosh as a ruckman but probably behind him when resting as a forward.
      In other words, there would be no real upgrade.

      Like Bulldogsman has mentioned, there are plenty of other areas I would focus on before looking to replace Minson. Anyway, the call is now for Will to make. If he wants to go elsewhere we won't get a lot for him and if he stays then he's our number one ruckman.
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      • Eastdog
        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
        • Feb 2012
        • 18379

        #678
        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        I'm still lukewarm on the value that Campbell will offer and I think Minson is at least as good as MacIntosh as a ruckman but probably behind him when resting as a forward.
        In other words, there would be no real upgrade.

        Like Bulldogsman has mentioned, there are plenty of other areas I would focus on before looking to replace Minson. Anyway, the call is now for Will to make. If he wants to go elsewhere we won't get a lot for him and if he stays then he's our number one ruckman.
        Do you rate Roughead and Cordy GVG? They need still a lot more to
        to develop. How would they be used in our team going forward.
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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 45581

          #679
          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Originally posted by Eastdog
          Do you rate Roughead and Cordy GVG? They need still a lot more to
          to develop. How would they be used in our team going forward.
          Cordy has made improvement but he isn't a key forward yet. How much more time do we give him?
          Roughead is a decent ruckman but must learn to be more productive when he's in the forward line and especially learn how to convert his chances in front of the goals.
          We've tried his at times as a defender but I think that is more about his development rather than a genuine option for him.
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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            #680
            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Cordy has made improvement but he isn't a key forward yet. How much more time do we give him?
            Roughead is a decent ruckman but must learn to be more productive when he's in the forward line and especially learn how to convert his chances in front of the goals.
            We've tried his at times as a defender but I think that is more about his development rather than a genuine option for him.
            Roughy has been about 30 meters out before and the ball has hardly made it to goal. Major worries about his kicking ability.
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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 67705

              #681
              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
              Roughy has been about 30 meters out before and the ball has hardly made it to goal. Major worries about his kicking ability.
              Roughy is actually a thumping kick. I think he just lacks confidence in his ability to kick goals.
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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 45581

                #682
                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                Roughy has been about 30 meters out before and the ball has hardly made it to goal. Major worries about his kicking ability.
                Originally posted by bornadog
                Roughy is actually a thumping kick. I think he just lacks confidence in his ability to kick goals.
                As BAD pointed out, he can kick a long goal but he gets the yips for the 30mtr chances
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                • Missing Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8501

                  #683
                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Originally posted by Eastdog
                  How about a key forward. That is a big hole we need to fill. 5 midfielders can equal 1 key forward so it's very difficult.
                  A good FF would be nice. Very hard to find though.

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                  • The Underdog
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 6988

                    #684
                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                    Roughy has been about 30 meters out before and the ball has hardly made it to goal. Major worries about his kicking ability.
                    That sounds more like a description of Cordy to me. he can shank a kick with the best of them.
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                    • The Bulldogs Bite
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 11409

                      #685
                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Although Cordy has improved, my fear is that he's neither a key forward nor a ruck, which leaves him (and us) in an awkward position.
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                      • chef
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 14748

                        #686
                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                        Although Cordy has improved, my fear is that he's neither a key forward nor a ruck, which leaves him (and us) in an awkward position.
                        I'm worried that he is a forward version of Cameron White.
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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 22155

                          #687
                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          I'm not phased with Ayce at all. He's still so bloody raw, and needs to develop his strenght. It will happen for him, we've just got to be prepared to wait until he's played 50-75 games.

                          Same with Jones and Roughead.
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                          • Eastdog
                            WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 18379

                            #688
                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                            Although Cordy has improved, my fear is that he's neither a key forward nor a ruck, which leaves him (and us) in an awkward position.
                            How could we best use him? I think we still need more time with him and he hasnt played enough games yet.
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                            • Scraggers
                              Premiership Moderator
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 3587

                              #689
                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              I'm not phased with Ayce at all. He's still so bloody raw, and needs to develop his strenght. It will happen for him, we've just got to be prepared to wait until he's played 50-75 games.

                              Same with Jones and Roughead.
                              Agreed ... I think all three will be good for us.

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                              • Bulldog4life
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 9607

                                #690
                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Originally posted by chef
                                I'm worried that he is a forward version of Cameron White.
                                Not a bad cricketer. Think you mean Wight.

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