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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    Cordy won't make it if he doesn't fill out more. He is tall and still young, give him chance.

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    • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 8962

      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      Originally posted by Chops
      Cordy won't make it if he doesn't fill out more. He is tall and still young, give him chance.
      He does need to learn to present better on a lead, rather than trying to just vertically jump up to the ball from a standing start.
      Then again we could have a budding Tony Lockett in our side at the moment and even he would be up against it with the abyssmal way we move the ball.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
        He does need to learn to present better on a lead, rather than trying to just vertically jump up to the ball from a standing start.
        Then again we could have a budding Tony Lockett in our side at the moment and even he would be up against it with the abyssmal way we move the ball.
        Spot on

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        • chef
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 14624

          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Originally posted by Bulldog4life
          Not a bad cricketer. Think you mean Wight.
          Nah, he was pretty average too.
          The curse is dead.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 44662

            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Originally posted by Eastdog
            I know he has actually been good this year but do you really rate Minson? Someone like Macintosh could be good for us as he is struggling to get a spot in the North team and is quite affective. Campbell looks good and has a future but he is still young and needs time to develop.
            Not really surprised Macintosh is struggling for a game at NM. He is a passable backup forward. But as a ruckman any of our four options are equal or better. As for Minno, he would eat 4 Macintoshes for breakfast, and spit them out for morning tea.

            Havn't we already had numerous posts about rucks substituting for genuine forwards already? Why add to the situation by bringing in another 'neither one thing nor the other'.
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            • soupman
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Nov 2007
              • 5113

              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
              He does need to learn to present better on a lead, rather than trying to just vertically jump up to the ball from a standing start.
              I agree. He doesn't move at all.

              That instance where Williams had it 55m out and had to dodge the man on the mark to make something happen, Cordy just stood in the goalsquare behind his man and didn't lead up or anything. This has got to come down to coaching.

              Either he isn't being instructed to do this and just decides to do it on a regular basis, in which case our coaches should pull him aside and tell him our players can't kick it 60m to him, or the coaches are telling him to stay there, which equally worries me. He is fine in at least making a contest, but I want to see him actually be proactive in providing an option. 200cm of gangliness has to be hard to stop on the lead.
              I should leave it alone but you're not right

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              • Dancin' Douggy
                WOOF Member
                • Oct 2007
                • 2876

                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Originally posted by soupaman
                I agree. He doesn't move at all.

                That instance where Williams had it 55m out and had to dodge the man on the mark to make something happen, Cordy just stood in the goalsquare behind his man and didn't lead up or anything. This has got to come down to coaching.

                Either he isn't being instructed to do this and just decides to do it on a regular basis, in which case our coaches should pull him aside and tell him our players can't kick it 60m to him, or the coaches are telling him to stay there, which equally worries me. He is fine in at least making a contest, but I want to see him actually be proactive in providing an option. 200cm of gangliness has to be hard to stop on the lead.
                it's very frustrating to watch isn't it.
                He thinks he's still in the school yard at lunchtime.

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                • soupman
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 5113

                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Just with regard to Mulligan, he has tweeted the following tonight:

                  "Hey everyone my new personal/group training business is starting in september "one fitness" ...
                  "You will be trained by myself and its a..."

                  Would that indicate that he has been told that there isn't a spot for him next year and to pursue other opportunities?
                  I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                  • westdog54
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6686

                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    Originally posted by soupaman
                    Just with regard to Mulligan, he has tweeted the following tonight:

                    "Hey everyone my new personal/group training business is starting in september "one fitness" ...
                    "You will be trained by myself and its a..."

                    Would that indicate that he has been told that there isn't a spot for him next year and to pursue other opportunities?
                    Has possibly seen the writing on the wall?

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                    • G-Mo77
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9876

                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Originally posted by soupaman
                      Just with regard to Mulligan, he has tweeted the following tonight:

                      "Hey everyone my new personal/group training business is starting in september "one fitness" ...
                      "You will be trained by myself and its a..."

                      Would that indicate that he has been told that there isn't a spot for him next year and to pursue other opportunities?
                      Good on him for venturing out into other areas.

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307

                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                        He does need to learn to present better on a lead, rather than trying to just vertically jump up to the ball from a standing start.
                        Then again we could have a budding Tony Lockett in our side at the moment and even he would be up against it with the abyssmal way we move the ball.
                        He has come up through the juniors where his sheer height meant that he could take marks against little contest. Against men some of whom match his height he has no idea how to use his body to either outmanoevre his opposition or by getting in front and holding him out. He has much work to do in this area.

                        On the lead, on the very rare occasion when he does so, like Jones he runs straight at the ball carrier instead of at the angle to give both the ball carrier and himself a better chance of success.

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                        • Ghost Dog
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                          • May 2010
                          • 9404

                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          Originally posted by EJ Smith
                          He has come up through the juniors where his sheer height meant that he could take marks against little contest. Against men some of whom match his height he has no idea how to use his body to either outmanoevre his opposition or by getting in front and holding him out. He has much work to do in this area.

                          On the lead, on the very rare occasion when he does so, like Jones he runs straight at the ball carrier instead of at the angle to give both the ball carrier and himself a better chance of success.
                          Should see some improvement soon on this front I'd say, if our forward coach is any good.
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                          • Bumper Bulldogs
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 2969

                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                            Should see some improvement soon on this front I'd say, if our forward coach is any good.
                            Sorry but I think this is the biggest issue at the club, we have not seen anything that resembles development, tactics, coaching or mentoring in tis area. We even have Barry Hall, Chris Grant, Brad Johnson that wold give time to come down and help out. However I feel we have a forward coach out of his depth and struggling to forfil his role.
                            BB.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              Originally posted by Bumper Bulldogs
                              Sorry but I think this is the biggest issue at the club, we have not seen anything that resembles development, tactics, coaching or mentoring in tis area. We even have Barry Hall, Chris Grant, Brad Johnson that wold give time to come down and help out. However I feel we have a forward coach out of his depth and struggling to forfil his role.
                              I don't absolve the forward line coach of all guilt but when you movement of the ball is treacle slow and your disposal inside 50 is awful, no forward line could prosper.

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 14959

                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Originally posted by EJ Smith
                                He has come up through the juniors where his sheer height meant that he could take marks against little contest. Against men some of whom match his height he has no idea how to use his body to either outmanoevre his opposition or by getting in front and holding him out. He has much work to do in this area.

                                On the lead, on the very rare occasion when he does so, like Jones he runs straight at the ball carrier instead of at the angle to give both the ball carrier and himself a better chance of success.
                                I remember his first season at Willy when playing on the HF line, a feature of his play was the ability to lead at the ball carrier at every opportunity. It's something that seems to be dropping off after a positive start to the year. Williams in H1 provided an example of what constantly presenting to the ball carrier does.
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