Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Here here GVGjr. I cannot believe the strong push to replace Boyd who under duress has been quite exceptional this year to be by far our most consistent performer. Boyd is tough and rarely misses a game. It is not hard to understand why BMcC has such a strong opinion of Boyd.

I can't see where anyone has called for Boyd to be replaced. He's a great captain. The issue is ( for me at least ) who can be promoted to the leadership group? Especially now that Gia looks uncertain.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

You mean Skinner don't you Fredi?

Doh!!!!! Yep Skinner.......was almost going retro!

Also should add too that Vez, for me is gone as well. Jong has gone past him and if you keep Howard and Grant I think Vez is sqeezed out.

[EasternWest]

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I'm guessing that I'd be in the minority that say for the right price, absolutely yes

My concern is that Ray doesn't have what we need. Sure he's in the age bracket, but he's not particularly quick and he's not a penetrating kick/creative kick.

I've got nothing against him at all, but I would pass simply because I can't see him makingus better.

[FrediKanoute]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

I can't see where anyone has called for Boyd to be replaced. He's a great captain. The issue is ( for me at least ) who can be promoted to the leadership group? Especially now that Gia looks uncertain.

I don't think its ever too early to promote someone to the leadership group. Wallis if noting else could be the leader of the young guys. He doesn't have to be club captain yet, but elevating him and saying to the group, here is an example you should model your ethics on isd not a bad thing. We shouldn't be shy of asking guys to take responsiblity, especially if we have earmarked them for future leadership duties.

[Ghost Dog]

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I don't think its ever too early to promote someone to the leadership group. Wallis if noting else could be the leader of the young guys. He doesn't have to be club captain yet, but elevating him and saying to the group, here is an example you should model your ethics on isd not a bad thing. We shouldn't be shy of asking guys to take responsiblity, especially if we have earmarked them for future leadership duties.

Right on Fredi. Why not promote Wallis next season?

[Mofra]

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My concern is that Ray doesn't have what we need. Sure he's in the age bracket, but he's not particularly quick and he's not a penetrating kick/creative kick.

I've got nothing against him at all, but I would pass simply because I can't see him makingus better.

He gives us run & carry and his disposal in nowhere near as bad as many make out - he takes the high risk/reward option less which was a major issue when he was with us (leg across the body diagonal F50 entries that rarely worked).

He has no problem backing into packs, has experience, will run the ball on the outside (a major issue for us this year) - he'd be getting games for us if he was on the list for sure.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Doh!!!!! Yep Skinner.......was almost going retro!

Also should add too that Vez, for me is gone as well. Jong has gone past him and if you keep Howard and Grant I think Vez is sqeezed out.

I actually wouldn't have been surprised to find Skipper still lurking in a dark distant corner of our list.

[stefoid]

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He gives us run & carry and his disposal in nowhere near as bad as many make out - he takes the high risk/reward option less which was a major issue when he was with us (leg across the body diagonal F50 entries that rarely worked).

He has no problem backing into packs, has experience, will run the ball on the outside (a major issue for us this year) - he'd be getting games for us if he was on the list for sure.

Sorry, but if we are going to spend our precious resources (list spot, dollars and draft picks) to trade someone into the club, they MUST have EXCELLENT footskills as a minimum. We have a tonne of players developing who have "ok footskills if they take low risk options" allready.

[Mofra]

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Sorry, but if we are going to spend our precious resources (list spot, dollars and draft picks) to trade someone into the club, they MUST have EXCELLENT footskills as a minimum. We have a tonne of players developing who have "ok footskills if they take low risk options" allready.

I disagree - you'd turn down a Riewoldt if offered? A Selwood? A Jobe Watson?

Ray would be nowhere near the worst kick on our list.

[GVGjr]

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I disagree - you'd turn down a Riewoldt if offered? A Selwood? A Jobe Watson?

Ray would be nowhere near the worst kick on our list.

You're right. Ray isn't an elite kick by any stretch of the imagination but there would be a lot of guys behind him in our side.

I just can't see us adding someone like Ray to our side because of his age.

[Mofra]

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I just can't see us adding someone like Ray to our side because of his age.

That might be the kicker, but he's 26, 27? With a good injury run that's 100 games to go, and if we get 100 games out of any draftee that's a massive win so I hope Fantasia does canvass all options, especially if they come cheap.

[Mofra]

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That doesnt make him a good kick, it just makes him not the worst -- wouldnt do anything to solve our inability to score whatsoever.

We'll agree to disagree then - I still think we need outside run and a better than average kick to add to our midfield, and I hope we draft accordingly

[G-Mo77]

Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

Mulligan, Moles and Hooper apparently have been told they won't be required next year according to the HUN.

[Bornadog]

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Mulligan, Moles and Hooper apparently have been told they won't be required next year according to the HUN.

No Surprises there.

That makes five with the two retirees, I just hope we don't stop there.

[Missing Dog]

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Mulligan, Moles and Hooper apparently have been told they won't be required next year according to the HUN.

I think Mulligan must've known for months! Even I could work it out reading the snippets that appeared about him in the press.