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  • Maddog37
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 3132

    #1111
    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

    When Morris is back and some of the younger guys become a touch stronger it will be nice to have Brian floating around picking off opposition kicks.

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    • Mantis
      Hall of Fame
      • Apr 2007
      • 15548

      #1112
      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Couldn't agree more Chef, I don't get some of these posters. lake is needed for mentoring our young backline. I don't want to see him in another jumper.
      1/ Will he play in defence?

      2/ Is he the best role model going around? Played a bit too much on his terms this year.

      Hopefully Dale can get back to fitness.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 67706

        #1113
        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

        Originally posted by Mantis
        1/ Will he play in defence?

        2/ Is he the best role model going around? Played a bit too much on his terms this year.

        Hopefully Dale can get back to fitness.
        Even if he is playing forward, off field he can work with the defenders. Yes dale seems like a guy that can help on field.
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        • Nuggety Back Pocket
          WOOF Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 2064

          #1114
          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

          Originally posted by Mantis
          1/ Will he play in defence?

          2/ Is he the best role model going around? Played a bit too much on his terms this year.

          Hopefully Dale can get back to fitness.
          Lake in the twilight of his career would see him being
          best suited in defence. Best value could now be to take a Dustin Fletcher, Scarlett type role in not having to take the opposition's best forward, but at the same time playing an attacking role. Morris has been a huge loss this year and would help stiffen a defence that was continually under pressure this year.

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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            #1115
            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

            Lake forward. We won't be challenging for a long time ( flag ). Why rob our backline of opportunities to develop?
            As said, he can work with them off field. we need a key forward. Brian can do that. Have every confidence.
            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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            • BulldogBelle
              WOOF Member
              • Nov 2006
              • 5284

              #1116
              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

              Brian Lake is a great player, but not the player he was. His last contract was just right for both the Dogs and Brian, and will see him come out of contract when he is about to turn 32. With Shaggy and Lindsay Gilbee retiring this year, Brian is now the oldest on our list. As far as being a FA or tradable, or even seeking a trade, I think the most likely outcome is that Brian will retire and return to Adelaide, and maybe have a one year contract offered. He still has much to offer, but more as a third tall down back, taking the ruckman than has gone forward. At his best this year, he was still beaten by the games better key forwards. That being the case, I think Brian will almost definately play out his career with the Dogs, which is a great achievement for both him and the club.

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15548

                #1117
                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                Lake forward. We won't be challenging for a long time ( flag ). Why rob our backline of opportunities to develop?
                As said, he can work with them off field. we need a key forward. Brian can do that. Have every confidence.
                Why rob our young forwards of the same opportunity?

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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #1118
                  Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  Why rob our young forwards of the same opportunity?
                  Why deny our forwards gametime by putting an aging Brian forward. Good point.

                  It would, IMO help their development.

                  First, he draws their premier defender. Eases their load.

                  Eade suggested early on that Barry could be used as a decoy in this way, but it never really happened. Barry demanded the ball with such a booming presence, his presence actually hurt the development of our forward structure. I don't think we will have this issue with Brian, and opposition coaches will def have to cover him.

                  Takes a strong grab, we can hopefully jag a few wins.
                  Provides a bit more leadership. Fills holes when Cordy and Jones gas out, as they are likely to continue to do.
                  Suggest he be used as a swingman.
                  You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #1119
                    Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                    Did I just read correctly on the HUN that Will has only been offered one year?? I reckon he'll walk and you wouldn't blame him if he did either. If he goes, we will be smashed in the ruck next year.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 67706

                      #1120
                      Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                      Originally posted by Hobdog
                      Did I just read correctly on the HUN that Will has only been offered one year?? I reckon he'll walk and you wouldn't blame him if he did either. If he goes, we will be smashed in the ruck next year.
                      If this is true, I am appalled.
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                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Ghost Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • May 2010
                        • 9404

                        #1121
                        Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                        Originally posted by Hobdog
                        Did I just read correctly on the HUN that Will has only been offered one year?? I reckon he'll walk and you wouldn't blame him if he did either. If he goes, we will be smashed in the ruck next year.
                        Can't find it.
                        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 15119

                          #1122
                          Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                          Originally posted by Hobdog
                          Did I just read correctly on the HUN that Will has only been offered one year?? I reckon he'll walk and you wouldn't blame him if he did either. If he goes, we will be smashed in the ruck next year.
                          Link?

                          Surely we can't be that incompetant. We've learned from the Mulligan and Ward debarcles? Haven't we?
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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #1123
                            Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                            Originally posted by Mofra
                            Link?

                            Surely we can't be that incompetant. We've learned from the Mulligan and Ward debarcles? Haven't we?
                            You have answered your own question. We are that incompetent a - Minson not signed b - Ward is gone...

                            And regarding Lake, yes it would be nice if a player could be a one club player, but not at the expense of the club.

                            A number of people are being critical of the mere suggestion that Lake could be traded. I wonder what those same people's thoughts were when Leon Cameron (probably more popular and just as good a player as Lake and also in the latter stages of his career) was traded for picks that netted Mitch Hahn and Ryan Hargrave.

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                            • The Underdog
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 6988

                              #1124
                              Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              Link?

                              Surely we can't be that incompetant. We've learned from the Mulligan and Ward debarcles? Haven't we?
                              At the bottom of this. I find it hard to believe.

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                              • Mofra
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 15119

                                #1125
                                Re: Retirements, Trades, Delistings and the Rookie list

                                Maybe my question was in desperation - a 1 year deal after leading the league in hit-outs, one of the few players to have enhanced his reputation this year.
                                Noting his 3rd place in the Woof awards, one would expect he'll place pretty well in the B&F.
                                A ruck in his prime. A 1 year deal. An aggressive blocker whio throws his weight around, with a young midfield who need bigger bodies around them.

                                I am staggered.
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