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  • Desipura
    WOOF Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 4344

    #76
    Re: Who gets delisted?

    Originally posted by Chops
    I found that one strange. I heard the manager speak like a politician trying to explain how Essendon was the only club Caddy prepared to deal with.
    I find it hard to believe. Would like to hear from Clayton.
    If he is as good as they say he could be, I would have offer our ward compo and 17(or a player).
    We tried to negotiate for Caddy in the final hours however they would not let us.

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    • westdog54
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Jan 2007
      • 6686

      #77
      Re: Who gets delisted?

      Originally posted by Greystache
      I'd think we'd upgrade Panos too. To me that means Stack or Addison will go as well.
      Do you think Mulligan would be in the gun before either of Stack or Addison?

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      • soupman
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2007
        • 5113

        #78
        Re: Who gets delisted?

        Originally posted by westdog54
        Do you think Mulligan would be in the gun before either of Stack or Addison?
        I think the vast majority will argue that he should be, but as he is a impressively athletic (and yes, unimpressively hopeless) tall player we may believe that he is worth giving another chance to ahead of the other two.
        I should leave it alone but you're not right

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        • Greystache
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Dec 2009
          • 9775

          #79
          Re: Who gets delisted?

          Originally posted by westdog54
          Do you think Mulligan would be in the gun before either of Stack or Addison?
          In terms of ability he should be, I just think we might keep him one more year as cover for Lake/Morris/Williams who have injury concerns. Unless the recruiters have a state league player in mind we think we can get.
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          • Mantis
            Hall of Fame
            • Apr 2007
            • 15447

            #80
            Re: Who gets delisted?

            Originally posted by Greystache
            In terms of ability he should be, I just think we might keep him one more year as cover for Lake/Morris/Williams who have injury concerns. Unless the recruiters have a state league player in mind we think we can get.
            Would moving Barlow onto the main list instead of renewing Mulligan be an option?

            Over the last few games Barlow played a key role in defence and wasn't horrible... well not Mulligan horrible anyway. In Barlow's favour is that he can also fill-in in other roles when/ if required.

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            • Greystache
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Dec 2009
              • 9775

              #81
              Re: Who gets delisted?

              Originally posted by Mantis
              Would moving Barlow onto the main list instead of renewing Mulligan be an option?

              Over the last few games Barlow played a key role in defence and wasn't horrible... well not Mulligan horrible anyway. In Barlow's favour is that he can also fill-in in other roles when/ if required.
              Not for me. It's easy to be seduced by Barlow's height, but he possess no physical presence at all. I was standing next to him in the huddle at a Williamstown final and felt that I could take him on physically. Mulligan is horrible, but I think he's the marginally less horrible of the two options. Barlow remaining on the rookie list still offers that injury cover anyway i suppose.
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              • ledge
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2007
                • 14309

                #82
                Re: Who gets delisted?

                Barlow was a good get and their are worse on our list, he has done more in one season as a rookie than some who have been on our list longer, we know he can compete at AFL level so I would be keeping him on.
                Bring back the biff

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #83
                  Re: Who gets delisted?

                  Originally posted by Desipura
                  We tried to negotiate for Caddy in the final hours however they would not let us.
                  If you look at how Melbourne snagged Clark despite his first preference being Freo players' minds are always there to be changed. The kid wanted to come home, Essendon wouldn't budge -- if we really wanted him we could have made it happen. If we were good enough.

                  Would probably have run out of time though.

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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15447

                    #84
                    Re: Who gets delisted?

                    Originally posted by Greystache
                    Not for me. It's easy to be seduced by Barlow's height, but he possess no physical presence at all. I was standing next to him in the huddle at a Williamstown final and felt that I could take him on physically. Mulligan is horrible, but I think he's the marginally less horrible of the two options. Barlow remaining on the rookie list still offers that injury cover anyway i suppose.
                    Good for you.

                    Barlow isn't a crash & bash type, but he competes when he has to and is a far more talented player than Mulligan who looks out of place at VFL level.

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                    • always right
                      WOOF Member
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 4189

                      #85
                      Re: Who gets delisted?

                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      Not for me. It's easy to be seduced by Barlow's height, but he possess no physical presence at all. I was standing next to him in the huddle at a Williamstown final and felt that I could take him on physically. Mulligan is horrible, but I think he's the marginally less horrible of the two options. Barlow remaining on the rookie list still offers that injury cover anyway i suppose.
                      What a bizarre statement.

                      I think neither Barlow or Mulligan have a future with us, although if you had to choose one then Barlow has shown marginally more ability. You're talking about a choice between two duds though.
                      I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                      • Greystache
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9775

                        #86
                        Re: Who gets delisted?

                        Originally posted by Mantis
                        Good for you.

                        Barlow isn't a crash & bash type, but he competes when he has to and is a far more talented player than Mulligan who looks out of place at VFL level.
                        I'm not big enough to be an AFL kpf, so good luck to him.

                        Again, he has no physical presence at all. Talent aside (which he has a limited amount of) he'd get rag dolled.
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                        • Greystache
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 9775

                          #87
                          Re: Who gets delisted?

                          Originally posted by always right
                          What a bizarre statement.

                          I think neither Barlow or Mulligan have a future with us, although if you had to choose one then Barlow has shown marginally more ability. You're talking about a choice between two duds though.
                          Great post as usual.
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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14950

                            #88
                            Re: Who gets delisted?

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            Would moving Barlow onto the main list instead of renewing Mulligan be an option?
                            I might be one of the few here that say yes.

                            Mulligan is behind Lake, Williams, Markovic & Morris as a tall backman, assumign Barlow plays elsewhere most of teh tiem and we don't draft someone or take a mature rookie that is ready to go.

                            Barlow pinch hits there, is the only bloke on our list with a bigger tank than Cross, played with a broken finger for most of the year and actually runs hard to get to contests - never mind the fact that he's much more versatile.

                            I don't even think a comparison between the two is fair - Barlow is so far ahead of Mulligan is pretty much every aspect of the game it isn't funny.
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                            • BulldogBelle
                              WOOF Member
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 5284

                              #89
                              Re: Who gets delisted?

                              Its pretty doubtful that Mulligan will ever develop average foot skills, or show any attacking flair, his decision making is poor (even at VFL level), and makes some stupid defensive mistakes at times - and its pretty doubtful these traits will ever improve

                              He is only on the list for his physical size and probably good attitude- he has had 2 years already, and not shown anything when given the opportunities

                              He isnt going to make it

                              Lets find a decent key position player in the draft to replace him with

                              He is not an AFL footballer, just doesnt have the football smarts for it. Lets stop trying to develop athletes into footballers.

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                              • 1eyedog
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 13235

                                #90
                                Re: Who gets delisted?

                                Originally posted by Greystache
                                Great post as usual.
                                Not an overly becoming reply from a mod, always right makes good points at times, regardless of how annoying his username is.
                                I get the meaning in your post, but Barlow is not a physical one on one player who thrives on contested situations. Just because he's tall doesn't mean he needs to be physical. He is hopeless in the air for his height and really is probably 3-4 inches too tall for the way he plays, the best we can hope for him in the air is to be an effective defensive third man up.

                                He's a tall Sam Power who also needs to work on his fitness.

                                He is versatile enough to fill a gap where required but he is not a long-term viable option IMHO.

                                He has more tricks in his bag than Mulligan though that's for sure.
                                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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