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  • Nuggety Back Pocket
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2064

    #16
    Re: Forward line 2012

    Originally posted by theimmortalmike
    I hope you mean Grant because Jones (along with Dahlhaus) was one of the few shining lights for our side last year.
    My mistake, apologies. Thanks for picking it up. I meant Grant.

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    • Remi Moses
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2009
      • 14785

      #17
      Re: Forward line 2012

      For how great Barry was,our forward half went backwards with him there.
      Panos is a work in progress and needs experience.Personally prefer the chaotic Forward half,although the big forward wins big finals.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44330

        #18
        Re: Forward line 2012

        Should Murphy be looked at as a forward this year given we have such an inexperienced group?
        I think they need someone there who can lead the others and Murphy could do that role for us.
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        • Go_Dogs
          Hall of Fame
          • Jan 2007
          • 10114

          #19
          Re: Forward line 2012

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Should Murphy be looked at as a forward this year given we have such an inexperienced group?
          I think they need someone there who can lead the others and Murphy could do that role for us.
          Good point and worthy of strong consideration. I still see him spending the majority of his time down back, however assuming his body is able to perform with continuity in the forward line, the suggestion has a lot of merit.
          Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            #20
            Re: Forward line 2012

            Originally posted by Griffen#16
            Good point and worthy of strong consideration. I still see him spending the majority of his time down back, however assuming his body is able to perform with continuity in the forward line, the suggestion has a lot of merit.
            Maybe. I remember Paul Roos saying he always felt a sense of relief when Bob Murphy was played at half back. Then again, need to suffer some pain to develop kids in fw roles.
            Bob also won't be able to run and chase as much.
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            • Mantis
              Hall of Fame
              • Apr 2007
              • 15322

              #21
              Re: Forward line 2012

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Should Murphy be looked at as a forward this year given we have such an inexperienced group?
              I think they need someone there who can lead the others and Murphy could do that role for us.
              Who will fill his role across HB?

              We look a little thin down there too.

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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10114

                #22
                Re: Forward line 2012

                Originally posted by Mantis
                Who will fill his role across HB?

                We look a little thin down there too.
                I'm saving the back line thread for last

                We've always needed 2 Murphy's and this year will be no exception. Ultimately the form of others is likely to dictate where we play Murph and whether we can afford to swing him around a bit.
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • Nuggety Back Pocket
                  WOOF Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 2064

                  #23
                  Re: Forward line 2012

                  Originally posted by Griffen#16
                  Good point and worthy of strong consideration. I still see him spending the majority of his time down back, however assuming his body is able to perform with continuity in the forward line, the suggestion has a lot of merit.
                  Murphy's undoubted class could make him our best forward but at what cost?Lake,Morris and Hargrave all returning from injuries gives a certain vulnerability down back. We probably need two Murphys. My inclination is that he will still be best suited in defense.

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44330

                    #24
                    Re: Forward line 2012

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    Who will fill his role across HB?

                    We look a little thin down there too.
                    We do look thin back there but we do have a number of experienced players whereas the forward line might be relying on just Giansiracusa to provide direction.

                    Maybe Higgins is the answer to replacing Murphy as a defender.
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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44330

                      #25
                      Re: Forward line 2012

                      Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
                      Murphy's undoubted class could make him our best forward but at what cost?Lake,Morris and Hargrave all returning from injuries gives a certain vulnerability down back. We probably need two Murphys. My inclination is that he will still be best suited in defense.
                      Whilst I agree he is best suited to defense we need him more in the forward line. I don't think Giansiracusa and say Sherman can provide the necessary leadership.
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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21586

                        #26
                        Re: Forward line 2012

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        We do look thin back there but we do have a number of experienced players whereas the forward line might be relying on just Giansiracusa to provide direction.

                        Maybe Higgins is the answer to replacing Murphy as a defender.
                        I don't think Higgins out of defense will take us forward as a team. If he's able to attain some continuity he will become a two goals a game forward that can play midfield to provide valuable resting time for others.

                        I've always said Murphy is in the top handful of CHF's in the league, and we move the ball so much better when he's leading at the footy (or we did when we had Cooney fit and creating run and Gilbee hitting targets).

                        Perhaps Grant and Jones will take a big step forward and present very well for us this year, bit I'm not prepared to count on that.
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                        • the banker
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 453

                          #27
                          Re: Forward line 2012

                          Originally posted by Sockeye Salmon
                          If Panos kicks 40 goals there will be the opportunity to see my hairy backside in Bourke St.

                          The boy needs to
                          1 - get a game
                          2 - get a kick
                          3 - worry about kicking 1 goal.

                          He hasn't kicked 40 VFL goals.


                          Our forward line is rooted and the reason we will finish about 14th.
                          Fair enough my points were what needs to happen not what will happen. Throw Panos out put Grant
                          there and bring in one if the others. More what the positions need to produce rather than the players.
                          Then again given your hairy arse threat..I probably wouldn't play Panos...
                          Last edited by the banker; 12-01-2012, 12:03 AM.
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                          • Hotdog60
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 5850

                            #28
                            Re: Forward line 2012

                            My only concern is his body playing forward, it may shorten his career a year or two. What role is Cooney going to play with his troubled knee? Would he take the role from Murph across half back were he can hit it and run in more of a straight line. Or does Cooney become that experienced HF in a lead up role.
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                            • jeemak
                              Bulldog Legend
                              • Oct 2010
                              • 21586

                              #29
                              Re: Forward line 2012

                              Originally posted by Hotdog60
                              My only concern is his body playing forward, it may shorten his career a year or two. What role is Cooney going to play with his troubled knee? Would he take the role from Murph across half back were he can hit it and run in more of a straight line. Or does Cooney become that experienced HF in a lead up role.
                              Cooney will play the majority of his football in the midfield I think. He's too good in close winning the ball, and if his game is going to change it will be more along the way Judd's has rather than going forward.
                              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                              • The Underdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 6801

                                #30
                                Re: Forward line 2012

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                We do look thin back there but we do have a number of experienced players whereas the forward line might be relying on just Giansiracusa to provide direction.

                                Maybe Higgins is the answer to replacing Murphy as a defender.
                                Does Higgins "pace" preclude a move down back? I think it becomes difficult to find a match-up that can't be exploited by the opposition. in theory he has the nous and foot skills to do it but the injuries he's suffered have had an effect on him.
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