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  • the banker
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 453
    #136
    Re: Forward line 2012

    Skinner looked comfortable. He may press Grant for his position which is a big surprise to me. Great if he has settled into Melbourne and developed his footy over the summer.
    WesternOval'61

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307
        #137
        Re: Forward line 2012

        Hard to judge Skinner in this nab cup bs especially against GWS. Grant is another got me worried, completely ineffective.

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          • Desipura
            WOOF Member
            • Mar 2008
            • 4344
            #138
            Re: Forward line 2012

            Grant will be lucky to be on an AFL list in 12 months time unless he dramatically pulls his finger out. Lacks intensity and consistency in his efforts, let's his opponent push him around.
            Went down like he was shot in a collision then got up straight away when awarded the free kick. I don't like that, would rather he got aggressive towards the guy that collided with him.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 44369
                #139
                Re: Forward line 2012

                Originally posted by Desipura
                Grant will be lucky to be on an AFL list in 12 months time unless he dramatically pulls his finger out. Lacks intensity and consistency in his efforts, let's his opponent push him around.
                Went down like he was shot in a collision then got up straight away when awarded the free kick. I don't like that, would rather he got aggressive towards the guy that collided with him.
                I'd be surprised if he wasn't on a list in 12 months time but I've always struggled to embrace our players who have a questionable intensity level and Grant is certainly one of them.
                McCartney has a challenge on his hand to get the most out of Grant.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                  • Hotdog60
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 5852
                    #140
                    Re: Forward line 2012

                    Originally posted by Desipura
                    Grant will be lucky to be on an AFL list in 12 months time unless he dramatically pulls his finger out. Lacks intensity and consistency in his efforts, let's his opponent push him around.
                    Went down like he was shot in a collision then got up straight away when awarded the free kick. I don't like that, would rather he got aggressive towards the guy that collided with him.
                    Swan had tackled Grant and in the process of getting up Swan pushed Grant to the ground in the manner of you stay down there, Grant just got up expressionless as if it ment nothing. I would have like Grant to have gone and put Swan on his arse even if it gave away the free kick.

                    Players shouldn't except that intimidation and if we do we have no hope of winning a final with these types of players.
                    Don't piss off old people
                    The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                      • LostDoggy
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8307
                        #141
                        Re: Forward line 2012

                        Originally posted by Hotdog60
                        Swan had tackled Grant and in the process of getting up Swan pushed Grant to the ground in the manner of you stay down there, Grant just got up expressionless as if it ment nothing. I would have like Grant to have gone and put Swan on his arse even if it gave away the free kick.

                        Players shouldn't except that intimidation and if we do we have no hope of winning a final with these types of players.
                        That was the little turd Shaw not Swan. If anyone needs a punch in the face, it's Heath Shaw.
                        Agreed it was a bit piss weak by Grant.
                        Last edited by LostDoggy; 19-02-2012, 11:04 AM.

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                          • Desipura
                            WOOF Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 4344
                            #142
                            Re: Forward line 2012

                            Originally posted by Hotdog60
                            Swan had tackled Grant and in the process of getting up Swan pushed Grant to the ground in the manner of you stay down there, Grant just got up expressionless as if it ment nothing. I would have like Grant to have gone and put Swan on his arse even if it gave away the free kick.

                            Players shouldn't except that intimidation and if we do we have no hope of winning a final with these types of players.
                            I was not referring to that incident but do know which one you are referring to, Brereton mentioned that it was intimidation by Shaw and that he should have retaliated, as those type of things help win finals. You have pretty much quoted Brereton. I am referring to another incident where Grant went down as if he was shot dead.

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                              • Hotdog60
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 5852
                                #143
                                Re: Forward line 2012

                                Originally posted by Desipura
                                I was not referring to that incident but do know which one you are referring to, Brereton mentioned that it was intimidation by Shaw and that he should have retaliated, as those type of things help win finals. You have pretty much quoted Brereton. I am referring to another incident where Grant went down as if he was shot dead.
                                Yes it was Shaw and not Swan, I know what you were referring to and agree, I was just adding a bit more to the story.
                                Don't piss off old people
                                The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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                                  • Ghost Dog
                                    WOOF Member
                                    • May 2010
                                    • 9404
                                    #144
                                    Re: Forward line 2012

                                    Originally posted by Chops
                                    That was the little turd Shaw not Swan. If anyone needs a punch in the face, it's Heath Shaw.
                                    Agreed it was a bit piss weak by Grant.
                                    that would depend. Some players get fired up and helps them perform ( Nadal)
                                    Others like to keep cool as it helps them get perform ( Federa )
                                    Either way, if you don't your revenge on the scoreboard, it means little.
                                    You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                                      • LostDoggy
                                        WOOF Member
                                        • Jan 2007
                                        • 8307
                                        #145
                                        Re: Forward line 2012

                                        Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                                        that would depend. Some players get fired up and helps them perform ( Nadal)
                                        Others like to keep cool as it helps them get perform ( Federa )
                                        Either way, if you don't your revenge on the scoreboard, it means little.
                                        Mens Tennis ain't AFL in fact its not even a team sport. You'll find the best teams intimidate and win on the scoreboard.

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                                          • Ghost Dog
                                            WOOF Member
                                            • May 2010
                                            • 9404
                                            #146
                                            Re: Forward line 2012

                                            I must admit, it raised my eyebrows. Grant jump to his feet and didn't even blink after being roughed up by shaw. does the kid have a pulse???
                                            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                                              • The Bulldogs Bite
                                                Hall of Fame
                                                • Dec 2006
                                                • 11123
                                                #147
                                                Re: Forward line 2012

                                                He's way too emotionless on the field, period. Even if he does something good and kicks a good goal, he just jogs back to his position.

                                                It's like he doesn't enjoy playing the game.

                                                Annoying to watch.
                                                W00F!

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                                                  • AndrewP6
                                                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                                                    • Jan 2009
                                                    • 8142
                                                    #148
                                                    Re: Forward line 2012

                                                    It wouldn't bother me if Grant was low key and produced the goods... But he's low key and has little impact on the game.
                                                    [B][COLOR="#0000CD"]Our club was born in blood and boots, not in AFL focus groups.[/COLOR][/B]

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                                                      • Greystache
                                                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                                                        • Dec 2009
                                                        • 9775
                                                        #149
                                                        Re: Forward line 2012

                                                        I think we really need to try Grant out of the goal square. He's quick and can get separation, plus it might mean the ball is kicked to him so he'll get more involved. He seems lost further up the ground, plus he's not physical, and doesn't work hard enough.

                                                        If he can't make it as a deep forward I don't think he has an AFL career ahead of him.
                                                        [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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                                                          • GVGjr
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • Nov 2006
                                                            • 44369
                                                            #150
                                                            Re: Forward line 2012

                                                            Originally posted by Greystache
                                                            I think we really need to try Grant out of the goal square. He's quick and can get separation, plus it might mean the ball is kicked to him so he'll get more involved. He seems lost further up the ground, plus he's not physical, and doesn't work hard enough.

                                                            If he can't make it as a deep forward I don't think he has an AFL career ahead of him.
                                                            It sounds like a good plan but if Roughead spends time in a pocket does it mean we have to play Jones as the CHF?
                                                            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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