Forward line 2012

[Eastdog]

Re: Forward line 2012

Rocket is an excellent teacher. Your views are based on what you see on TV during game time. Have a look at the antics of Malthouse during a game. Its an emotional game.

When you went down to training, Rocket was not screaming and abusing people, he was teaching.

I agree bornadog. Rocket was a very good mentor. I think overall he did a good job with list we had when he came in at the helm. Would of liked to make a Grand Final but thats the way it went. With Macca now it is kind of a new era.

[Bornadog]

Re: Forward line 2012

I agree bornadog. Rocket was a very good mentor. I think overall he did a good job with list we had when he came in at the helm. Would of liked to make a Grand Final but thats the way it went. With Macca now it is kind of a new era.

Yes, he had 7 years and now for new blood.

Lets hope BMac knows what he is doing as its a big step from assistant to Head Coach.

[Eastdog]

Re: Forward line 2012

Yes, he had 7 years and now for new blood.

Lets hope BMac knows what he is doing as its a big step from assistant to Head Coach.

Yes. Now to see what Macca can do with the team. I met Macca at the East meets West Family Day and got his autograph

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Forward line 2012

Rocket is an excellent teacher. Your views are based on what you see on TV during game time. Have a look at the antics of Malthouse during a game. Its an emotional game.

When you went down to training, Rocket was not screaming and abusing people, he was teaching.

I'm not having a go at Rocket. I never said he wasn't an excellent teacher. I'm saying that that specific behavior, by him, or anyone, is old school. and hey, sometimes old school works!

[stefoid]

Re: Forward line 2012

Grant on Grant:

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/129517/default.aspx

[LostDoggy]

Re: Forward line 2012

The spray is old fashioned. Coaching isn't all teaching. But it is a big part of it.

You'll find people get upset even today and will so in the future.
Its old, current and new school. Why can't a spray at the right player at the right moment be used any longer?

Teaching is maybe 10% of senior coaching at afl level. You find tactics, people management, psychology, opposition study, media, etc just as big if not bigger.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Forward line 2012

You'll find people get upset even today and will so in the future.
Its old, current and new school. Why can't a spray at the right player at the right moment be used any longer?

Teaching is maybe 10% of senior coaching at afl level. You find tactics, people management, psychology, opposition study, media, etc just as big if not bigger.

"As a coach - it's a bit like being a parent or a teacher or a boss in any form of work
B McCartney

think BMac's teaching pedigree will come in very handy for our forwards this season, having a young group.
Ayce Cordy remains a diamond in the rough and very excited to see if he can have an impact.

The modern coach doesn't smash the coaching box up anymore.

One study found: an overly aggressive coach may end up with a timid team that is too afraid to innovate for fear of incurring a tongue-lashing.

[Bornadog]

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"As a coach - it's a bit like being a parent or a teacher or a boss in any form of work
B McCartney

think BMac's teaching pedigree will come in very handy for our forwards this season, having a young group.
Ayce Cordy remains a diamond in the rough and very excited to see if he can have an impact.

The modern coach doesn't smash the coaching box up anymore.

One study found: an overly aggressive coach may end up with a timid team that is too afraid to innovate for fear of incurring a tongue-lashing.

so your saying Malthouse is not a good coach.

[Ghost Dog]

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so your saying Malthouse is not a good coach.

clearly he had room for improvement in 2011 didn't he? ^_^

Getting back to the thread, it was hinted that Brian may have a possible role in the forward line. Wonder if, in absence of Barry, he might fill that role now and then.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Forward line 2012

"As a coach - it's a bit like being a parent or a teacher or a boss in any form of work
B McCartney

I think you need to taught that a bit doesn't equal a big part of it as you mentioned.
ATM McCartney hasn't coached 1 AFL game so I'm not sure its a good source yet.

The modern coach doesn't smash the coaching box up anymore.

One study found: an overly aggressive coach may end up with a timid team that is too afraid to innovate for fear of incurring a tongue-lashing.

Was this study found in the AFL coaches hand book? I believe thoughts like that have been around for ages. Hardily new school or modern.
You are also Concluding a spray means loss of control when I believe many coaches that do use it know exactly what they are doing and believe it works given the right situation.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Forward line 2012

I think you need to taught that a bit doesn't equal a big part of it as you mentioned.
ATM McCartney hasn't coached 1 AFL game so I'm not sure its a good source yet.



Was this study found in the AFL coaches hand book? I believe thoughts like that have been around for ages. Hardily new school or modern.
You are also Concluding a spray means loss of control when I believe many coaches that do use it know exactly what they are doing and believe it works given the right situation.

fair enough. anyway back to the forward line.

[AndrewP6]

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Yes I do...

I was at the Lion Bar ( ? ) at Melbourne central once, chatting to a bunch of players ( can't remember where from ) who had rocket come and do some clinics with them. During said clinic, one of them was quietly chatting to his mate while rocket was attempting to address the group. He gave the guy a fair old spray, or so he said. The group told me how shit scared they were of Rocket.
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I'd give them a spray too, that's just plain rudeness, and my students hear it if they're holding conversations while I'm talking to the class. As Aretha sang, R-E-S-P-E-C-T.

I wonder how many of that group you met are still playing AFL...

[Eastdog]

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clearly he had room for improvement in 2011 didn't he? ^_^

Getting back to the thread, it was hinted that Brian may have a possible role in the forward line. Wonder if, in absence of Barry, he might fill that role now and then.

Im not sure about him playing there as of course his naturally a fullback. His fitness must be very good for him to play up forward. I agree though that he can be very effective late in games up there when we are behind by a small margin. Matthew Panos I think will be a big ask if we rely on him up forward as this will be his first season and his still young.

[jeemak]

Re: Forward line 2012

clearly he had room for improvement in 2011 didn't he? ^_^

Getting back to the thread, it was hinted that Brian may have a possible role in the forward line. Wonder if, in absence of Barry, he might fill that role now and then.

I think Lake would be capable of kicking a few goals for us up forward, but surely the best FB we've had at the club for a number of years who until recently was in the top couple of defenders in the competition would be best used in defense when we're most likely going to be under the pump in that area.

This year needs to be used to develop our forward talent. Not sure if Lake up forward would assist that development.

[Eastdog]

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I think Lake would be capable of kicking a few goals for us up forward, but surely the best FB we've had at the club for a number of years who until recently was in the top couple of defenders in the competition would be best used in defense when we're most likely going to be under the pump in that area.

This year needs to be used to develop our forward talent. Not sure if Lake up forward would assist that development.

I agree jeemak. Lake is suited at fullback in the defence where he has been so good there since this recent setback. We need this season to develop the forward line. Panos will probably play there regularly to get the games into him but don't expect to much.