Starting to get worried about our coach

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

True, but we doomed to stay at the bottom until 2015.

Yep agree Dry, I guess the club needs to manage expectation.

[Bornadog]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

How long do we as supporters have to sit here and take the crap that is dished out every year. All we hear about is "oh we tried hard" or "we are developing". Im sorry but we have been developing since 1954.

I for one have had enough of the rubbish that is dished out week after week, year after year. The clubs board, coaches and recruiters need to get fairdinkum and start to use their brains just a little more.

I am sick of second rate, over the hill coaches or coaches that have no credentials at all. Malthouse is available, he started at the dogs lets get him to finish here on a bang with a flag or two, he knows how to build a list, he knows what to do to win a flag and he has actually played AFL football at the elite level.

No more apathy from me, no more rebuilding rubbish it is time to deliver.

I am starting to wonder whether I will ever see us in a GF let alone win a premiership.

I think we should get Malthouse over to mentor Macca, if he would take the job.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Ok Savage. You've joined this forum a couple of days about and thrown a dozen posts around about how we should sack everyone, how the board, the coaches, the recruiters, and the players are no good. The supporters don't expect enough.

So we get it that you've cracked the sh1ts and decided to join a forum to vent. But what is the next sentence? What is the solution? Do you think everyone at the club - and everyone supporting the club isn't craving a premiership?

Cracking the sh1ts and telling everyone that they are rubbish doesn't do a hell of a lot does it?

And burning anyone and everyone that has been at the club now, and over the last decade puts us a mile further back than we already are - and possibly does irreperable damage to the club. So I'd suggest getting a grip.

So being a dedicated hardcore fan is no good anymore then, you missed the boat, I have said that we as members must demand more from the club, not sit back and say oh well maybe next year, that has got us nowhere fast. I cracked the shits a long time ago, about the time that Wallace left Smith on Wren. Again all I have said is that we must no longer except near enough as good enough, how many time do you want me to say it.

Did we get the wrong coach...Yes
Do players need to go...Yes
Has our recruiting been very poor...Yes
Has the development of our player been very poor....Yes

We as members sit back and talk about it when we should be letting the club hear all about it, we pay for a service as members we deserve results. I know people say if you dont like it dont be a member, well if we all did that we would not have a club would we. Just asking for more then this.

Ps: Regardless whether I joined a couple of days ago or twenty years ago, free speech is free speech, but thanks for the slap.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

So being a dedicated hardcore fan is no good anymore then, you missed the boat, I have said that we as members must demand more from the club, not sit back and say oh well maybe next year, that has got us nowhere fast. I cracked the shits a long time ago, about the time that Wallace left Smith on Wren. Again all I have said is that we must no longer except near enough as good enough, how many time do you want me to say it.

Did we get the wrong coach...Yes
Do players need to go...Yes
Has our recruiting been very poor...Yes
Has the development of our player been very poor....Yes

We as members sit back and talk about it when we should be letting the club hear all about it, we pay for a service as members we deserve results. I know people say if you dont like it dont be a member, well if we all did that we would not have a club would we. Just asking for more then this.

Ps: Regardless whether I joined a couple of days ago or twenty years ago, free speech is free speech, but thanks for the slap.

Don't disagree with your sentiment Savage but I wonder whether the last 3 points are more responsible for our form and perhaps making the first point (wrong coach) appear so?

Don't quote me but I think members can attend the annual general meeting and voice concerns? (serious suggestion, not taking the piss). Alternatively, you can email or write to the club and voice your concerns, although I wouldn't think they'd respond with anything of real substance.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

So being a dedicated hardcore fan is no good anymore then, you missed the boat, I have said that we as members must demand more from the club, not sit back and say oh well maybe next year, that has got us nowhere fast. I cracked the shits a long time ago, about the time that Wallace left Smith on Wren. Again all I have said is that we must no longer except near enough as good enough, how many time do you want me to say it.

Did we get the wrong coach...Yes
Do players need to go...Yes
Has our recruiting been very poor...Yes
Has the development of our player been very poor....Yes

We as members sit back and talk about it when we should be letting the club hear all about it, we pay for a service as members we deserve results. I know people say if you dont like it dont be a member, well if we all did that we would not have a club would we. Just asking for more then this.

Ps: Regardless whether I joined a couple of days ago or twenty years ago, free speech is free speech, but thanks for the slap.

Regardless of how long you have been a member of the forum, people are entitled to voice their opinion. Sometimes it won't be liked by other members but it is an opinion nonetheless. We were all new hear at some point and have all been frustrated with the club over the stretch.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Don't disagree with your sentiment Savage but I wonder whether the last 3 points are more responsible for our form and perhaps making the first point (wrong coach) appear so?

Don't quote me but I think members can attend the annual general meeting and voice concerns? (serious suggestion, not taking the piss). Alternatively, you can email or write to the club and voice your concerns, although I wouldn't think they'd respond with anything of real substance.

One voice in a sea of pride at a club wont do jack....nice suggestion but have to do it in numbers.

I ask what happens next year when another 8000 members dont sign up...I'm a lifer aint going anywhere but others will see something else to put their hard earnt into. That is what will cost us.

Solution....Demand more, expect more force the clubs hand to ensure we get results. End of the day one flag since 1877, last GF in 1961. I want value for my money.

[Desipura]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

One voice in a sea of pride at a club wont do jack....nice suggestion but have to do it in numbers.

I ask what happens next year when another 8000 members dont sign up...I'm a lifer aint going anywhere but others will see something else to put their hard earnt into. That is what will cost us.

Solution....Demand more, expect more force the clubs hand to ensure we get results. End of the day one flag since 1877, last GF in 1961. I want value for my money.

How about you go write a letter to the club and have your whinge?

[Dry Rot]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

I want value for my money.

I have never thought like that supporting a team.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

I won't be naming them.

I would hope that I would have enough credibility around here to have you think that I'm not making this up... but please yourself.

Nice one. I'll have to use that one myself when someone questions me.

[anfo27]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

You've made 2 statements today that are straight out wrong.

So your not a fan then chops?

I went backed & checked the game day thread & indeed you are right. There was only one poster asking for Maccas head. When i was reading all the negative posts yesterday & tried to recall how many I remembered it wrong. So I do apologise to posters for misleading them with incorrect information. Happy to admit when i'm wrong, unlike others.

I exaggerate do i chops? You wouldn't be exaggerating yourself?

I've only made the one statement today that was wrong chops, which would make your statement an exaggeration wouldn't it?

[Topdog]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Wowee this thread has gone bonkers. I never stated sacking the coach. Savage if you want a debate about accepting mediocrity which seems to be your suggestion start up a thread detailing how and why we fix it.

Sounds like a few people believe Macca has a "5 year plan". We will need to show a lot of improvement next year for a rookie coach to get past his 2nd year.

I still can't believe we get a free ride in the media even though we went to great lengths to ensure everybody that we needed a "refresh" and not a rebuild. This isn't a refresh, its in fact the opposite of refreshing to watch.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

So your not a fan then chops?

I went backed & checked the game day thread & indeed you are right. There was only one poster asking for Maccas head. When i was reading all the negative posts yesterday & tried to recall how many I remembered it wrong. So I do apologise to posters for misleading them with incorrect information. Happy to admit when i'm wrong, unlike others.

I exaggerate do i chops? You wouldn't be exaggerating yourself?

I've only made the one statement today that was wrong chops, which would make your statement an exaggeration wouldn't it?

Its already been mentioned twice. You not only exaggerate but seem to be forgetful as well.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Wowee this thread has gone bonkers. I never stated sacking the coach. Savage if you want a debate about accepting mediocrity which seems to be your suggestion start up a thread detailing how and why we fix it.

Sounds like a few people believe Macca has a "5 year plan". We will need to show a lot of improvement next year for a rookie coach to get past his 2nd year.

I still can't believe we get a free ride in the media even though we went to great lengths to ensure everybody that we needed a "refresh" and not a rebuild. This isn't a refresh, its in fact the opposite of refreshing to watch.

Well written TD.
1 person a newbie has called for his head, so it's now anyone thats questioned his coaching.
I don't see the point in sacking the coach when the problems are far greater.

[anfo27]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

So being a dedicated hardcore fan is no good anymore then, you missed the boat, I have said that we as members must demand more from the club, not sit back and say oh well maybe next year, that has got us nowhere fast. I cracked the shits a long time ago, about the time that Wallace left Smith on Wren. Again all I have said is that we must no longer except near enough as good enough, how many time do you want me to say it.

Did we get the wrong coach...Yes
Do players need to go...Yes
Has our recruiting been very poor...Yes
Has the development of our player been very poor....Yes

We as members sit back and talk about it when we should be letting the club hear all about it, we pay for a service as members we deserve results. I know people say if you dont like it dont be a member, well if we all did that we would not have a club would we. Just asking for more then this.

Ps: Regardless whether I joined a couple of days ago or twenty years ago, free speech is free speech, but thanks for the slap.

Love your passion Savage & thats something all posters on here are as well but not sure what your solution is.

Getting rid of the coach as well as his staff, half the list & recruiting staff will send us further back. Jesus Christ himself would need more than 17 games to turn this list around so surely he needs time to shape the team to the way he wants them to play.

We all want flags & a bulldog dynasty but that is going to take time. You yourself said the playing list is poor, how on earth is any coach going to take a poor playing list & turn that into premiership contender in 17 games?

[Mantis]

Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

Nice one. I'll have to use that one myself when someone questions me.

Knock yourself out.