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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #76
    Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

    Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
    Ahem? 2008 was only 4 years ago!?!

    And I'm only trying to figure out why the Media isn't putting the blowtorch on us.
    Yeah but they started to rebuild in what 2005, let see then that is 7 years up and about, we had 3 good years, no flag and no chance, very poor recruiting I think.

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #77
      Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

      Originally posted by Savage
      So what is Hawthorns excuse then, dont believe they have had a slide period since 2008, they have been there for some time....Sorry dont buy that rubbish anymore, there is no place for apathy.
      Put simply, they have class in many positions and we don't.

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      • Greystache
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Dec 2009
        • 9775

        #78
        Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

        Originally posted by Savage
        So what is Hawthorns excuse then, dont believe they have had a slide period since 2008, they have been there for some time....Sorry dont buy that rubbish anymore, there is no place for apathy.
        Hawthorn has won 1 final since 2008, if you think that's a good record you're easily pleased.
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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #79
          Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

          Originally posted by Greystache
          Hawthorn has won 1 final since 2008, if you think that's a good record you're easily pleased.
          One more then the Bulldogs, so yes it is a good record. Just a reminder our last one was 1954 folks.

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          • Greystache
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Dec 2009
            • 9775

            #80
            Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

            Originally posted by Savage
            One more then the Bulldogs, so yes it is a good record.
            Final wins since 2008

            Hawthorn- 1
            Western Bulldogs- 2
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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #81
              Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

              If we sack the coach after 3/4 of a season what kind of club will we become, we will be on a fast track to no longer existing. We have had our up period, we didn't make the most of it and our list is guttered, its time to rebuild, guess what? it takes time. We need to stick fast with the coach and if we are still not improving after 2-3 years then yes in all right we would look to move him on, sacking him at this stage is just reactionary and stupid.

              Suck it up people, we are in for a tough period.

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              • Missing Dog
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8501

                #82
                Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                I'm a little concerned, but I'm willing to be patient. I'll wait till next year to make a proper judgement. Mac especially needs to encourage players to move the ball with more risk. Less focus on the inside and more on the outside.

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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #83
                  Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                  Originally posted by Greystache
                  Final wins since 2008

                  Hawthorn- 1
                  Western Bulldogs- 2
                  Again Flags

                  Hawthorn 1
                  Bulldogs 0

                  Finals dont count, flags do. It is the fact that the successful clubs expect wins and flags, the smaller clubs, like the Dogs just say well we tried hard...What I am saying is that we as supporters need to change our mind set and start to demand more not sit back and say "oh well we nearly got there"...Second best is no good anymore, nearly there does not rate.

                  I just want supporter to say enough is enough and put some heat back into the club, make them want it and let them know that we as a membership will no longer sit back and watch sub-standard performance from what are meant to be the elite players of their ilk.

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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #84
                    Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                    Originally posted by bulldogsman
                    I'm a little concerned, but I'm willing to be patient. I'll wait till next year to make a proper judgement. Mac especially needs to encourage players to move the ball with more risk.
                    Yep the safe option is certainly not getting us anywhere so a few risks can't hurt. Not like we're not getting thumped as it is!

                    If we're trying to learn a patient build up game style at all costs, we will become unwatchable. Actually we already are unwatchable!

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #85
                      Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                      Originally posted by Hobdog
                      Yep the safe option is certainly not getting us anywhere so a few risks can't hurt. Not like we're not getting thumped as it is!

                      If we're trying to learn a patient build up game style at all costs, we will become unwatchable. Actually we already are unwatchable!
                      Amen

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                      • Greystache
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9775

                        #86
                        Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                        Originally posted by Savage
                        Again Flags

                        Hawthorn 1
                        Bulldogs 0

                        Finals dont count, flags do. It is the fact that the successful clubs expect wins and flags, the smaller clubs, like the Dogs just say well we tried hard...What I am saying is that we as supporters need to change our mind set and start to demand more not sit back and say "oh well we nearly got there"...Second best is no good anymore, nearly there does not rate.

                        I just want supporter to say enough is enough and put some heat back into the club, make them want it and let them know that we as a membership will no longer sit back and watch sub-standard performance from what are meant to be the elite players of their ilk.
                        This will help if you want to give it a try- google.com

                        Flags since 2008-

                        Hawthorn- 0
                        Western Bulldogs- 0
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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #87
                          Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                          Originally posted by Greystache
                          This will help if you want to give it a try- google.com

                          Flags since 2008-

                          Hawthorn- 0
                          Western Bulldogs- 0
                          Real nice, well done, tell me did Hawthorn win the flag in 2008 or do you just like to be difficult.

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                          • LostDoggy
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8307

                            #88
                            Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                            Matter of fact to make the point even better...Geelong won the flag in 07, 09 & 11 so they must be rebuilding now too then... see how we as members just sit back and go well we had a good three years, these teams have had good ten yers stints.

                            I ask what is the core of our problem, coaching?, recruiting? board? or the members not expecting much?

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                            • Greystache
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9775

                              #89
                              Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                              Originally posted by Savage
                              Real nice, well done, tell me did Hawthorn win the flag in 2008 or do you just like to be difficult.
                              I'm trying hard to find a point in what you've been posting. The closest I can come to one is you think that after Hawthorn won the flag in 2008 they have been a power and we have been poor.

                              The facts are Hawthorn have been little more than an also ran in recent years. 1 final win is a massive under achievement given the list and age demographic they have. The Bulldogs have won 2 finals in the same period of time and our list, due to a long list of short term list management decisions, poor recruiting 4-7 years ago, and the lost of 2 of our most promising players to expansion clubs, is completely undbalanced and in need of a total rebuild.

                              If you think Hawthorn have been a shining example over the past 4 years I am gobsmacked.
                              [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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                              • Dancin' Douggy
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 2876

                                #90
                                Re: Starting to get worried about our coach

                                I'm not saying 'oh well we had 3 good years' I'm just explaining why the media is hammering Melbourne and not the Dogs

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