Brian Lake to Hawthorn

**G-Mo77** · 09-10-2012, 11:24 AM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Originally posted by elephant_man

I've simmered also for a couple of reasons. We've essentially got hunter for lake plus some beneficial shuffling of draft picks. We are also much better placed for a significant free agency raid next year. More room in cap and won't lose Lake next year for nothing if we do sign an equally high-profile free agent (lake compo would therefore be worth nothing). Was Lake on veteran's list. If so, does anyone know who replaces him? I don't think we could have done a huge amount better for 31 year old - but it does make for an interesting year next year.

I keep hearing this but we'd be in the same position had we kept Lake and dropped him off the books when his contract ran out after next season. Front loading or bringing in a higher priced player through trade is the only real advantage in dumping Lake's contract now.

If Lake walked away as a FA after next season we would have got compensated for it which probably would have been a 2nd round pick or at worst a 3rd and that's pretty much all we got for him yesterday. That is of course he got through injury free.

We weren't desperate to sell and Hawthorn were desperate to buy yet we give them a little extra to take the deal. It doesn't make any sense to me. I've got a mate who sells cars, I should give him JMac's number.

Anyway I wrote my email out this morning but will wait until the end of the trade period before I send it out. I don't expect any redemption but as a Bulldog supporter I live with hope.

**bulldogsthru&thru** · 09-10-2012, 11:49 AM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

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BAD was correct in saying Lake would be played in attack for the remainder of his career as a dog. The idea?....to restructure the defense around Michael Talia, Fletcher Roberts, Tom Williams, Lukas Markovic and Jordan Roughead

**Bornadog** · 09-10-2012, 11:51 AM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1226490817177

BAD was correct in saying Lake would be played in attack for the remainder of his career as a dog. The idea?....to restructure the defense around Michael Talia, Fletcher Roberts, Tom Williams, Lukas Markovic and Jordan Roughead

Markovic - gee we are stuck with him now

**Bulldog4life** · 09-10-2012, 11:57 AM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/spo...-1226490817177

BAD was correct in saying Lake would be played in attack for the remainder of his career as a dog. The idea?....to restructure the defense around Michael Talia, Fletcher Roberts, Tom Williams, Lukas Markovic and Jordan Roughead

So he sooked and wanted out. Not a team player. You play where the team wants you to play. Happy to see the back of him.

**LostDoggy** · 09-10-2012, 12:08 PM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Originally posted by G-Mo77

I keep hearing this but we'd be in the same position had we kept Lake and dropped him off the books when his contract ran out after next season. Front loading or bringing in a higher priced player through trade is the only real advantage in dumping Lake's contract now.

If Lake walked away as a FA after next season we would have got compensated for it which probably would have been a 2nd round pick or at worst a 3rd and that's pretty much all we got for him yesterday. That is of course he got through injury free.

We weren't desperate to sell and Hawthorn were desperate to buy yet we give them a little extra to take the deal. It doesn't make any sense to me. I've got a mate who sells cars, I should give him JMac's number.

Anyway I wrote my email out this morning but will wait until the end of the trade period before I send it out. I don't expect any redemption but as a Bulldog supporter I live with hope.

If he walks next year we probably get nothing (if we land a FA - which is a big if), but if Melbourne can land Mitch Clarke, surely we can do the same. I wasn't a huge fan of the deal to begin with but I think our footy department is being pragmatic in what is a tough situation. Atleast we are calling the shots rather than letting afl determine compensation.

**westbulldog** · 09-10-2012, 12:28 PM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Originally posted by bornadog

Markovic - gee we are stuck with him now

Josh Kennedy of WCE for the 2013 Coleman medal..........

**Nuggety Back Pocket** · 09-10-2012, 12:36 PM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Originally posted by EJ Smith

What comes out of this to me is the realisation that Brian Lake is a strange man

Two years ago he held out for a contract figure which was way beyond that which the Club originally was prepared to pay and in so doing got the absolute maximum he could extract from us.

Now he turns his back on $200,000 per year so "he can play in a Grand Final." All of a sudden money is unimportant.

The more I look at this, the more I come to the conclusion that Lake simply wanted out, any way he could.

Don't let the door hit you on your way out, pal.

You would have to question the wisdom of Hawthorn recruiting Lake at 31yo after two disappointing seasons by his standard. It wasn't the Hawks backline that cost it the Premiership but wayward kicking from its forward line. Read doc26's comments regarding Lake's attitude together with Adam Cooney at the Best and Fairest Medal night, which was very disappointing to say the least. I like BMcC's approach which I believe is to build a new culture similar to what he played a big part in at Geelong over 10 years. Having 6 players to be drafted in the top 50 has to be a bonus with three in the first round.

**Bornadog** · 09-10-2012, 12:37 PM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Originally posted by westbulldog

Josh Kennedy of WCE for the 2013 Coleman medal..........

Lets hope we don't play them twice

**F'scary** · 09-10-2012, 12:40 PM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Originally posted by Dry Rot

If we piss their pick 21 on Dawes, the club house will be burned down

Originally posted by always right

I'll provide the matches.

Originally posted by Dry Rot

I'll meet you with the petrol.

I can assist by preventing people from escaping

**LostDoggy** · 09-10-2012, 12:58 PM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket

You would have to question the wisdom of Hawthorn recruiting Lake at 31yo after two disappointing seasons by his standard. It wasn't the Hawks backline that cost it the Premiership but wayward kicking from its forward line. Read doc26's comments regarding Lake's attitude together with Adam Cooney at the Best and Fairest Medal night, which was very disappointing to say the least. I like BMcC's approach which I believe is to build a new culture similar to what he played a big part in at Geelong over 10 years. Having 6 players to be drafted in the top 50 has to be a bonus with three in the first round.

That's the real issue and perhaps the greatest challenge for the club, in a playing sense, ever.

We could use the six picks on players like Walshe, J Grant, Koops, Stack, Tutt and Wight.

Or our Recruiters might actually pick some good ones.

**Ghost Dog** · 09-10-2012, 12:58 PM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Originally posted by elephant_man

If he walks next year we probably get nothing (if we land a FA - which is a big if), but if Melbourne can land Mitch Clarke, surely we can do the same. I wasn't a huge fan of the deal to begin with but I think our footy department is being pragmatic in what is a tough situation. Atleast we are calling the shots rather than letting afl determine compensation.

Well said. At least we are trying something and being proactive. Taking 'the game on' and the more I read Doc26's comments about Brian's behavior on BF night , the better I feel about this whole thing anyway. Here's hoping we look back at pick 21, a gun player and say well done Bmac.

If anything it gives me something to read and discuss during the post season!

**angelopetraglia** · 09-10-2012, 01:42 PM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Right decision. Wrong decision. This still makes me feel sick

**whythelongface** · 09-10-2012, 01:45 PM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Just an observation on Brian but it all seems to be about him (not only this trade but other past dealings he has had with the club or individuals within the club). This is not a criticism of the man, merely an observation. This is in contrast to others (Murphy, Boyd etc.) where it appears that they are more team oriented and bleed the red, white and blue.

**whythelongface** · 09-10-2012, 01:45 PM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Originally posted by angelopetraglia

Right decision. Wrong decision. This still makes me feel sick

The colours really don't suit him!!!

**Murphy'sLore** · 09-10-2012, 01:47 PM

Re: Brian Lake to Hawthorn

Yuk.

But for some reason this doesn't feel as gutting as when Ward left. Felt physically sick the first time I saw Callan in the orange jumper.

Brian Lake to Hawthorn

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