Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

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  • Bulldog Joe
    Premiership Moderator
    • Jul 2009
    • 5516

    Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

    Originally posted by always right
    Did he say that in Independence Day or Men in Black?
    I saw it in an interview.
    Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66242

      Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

      Teenagers press for selection

      An increased depth on the Western Bulldogs list this season has Senior Coach Brendan McCartney confident the team can cover their injury losses against Adelaide on Sunday.

      While senior opportunities have emerged through injury, McCartney said a number of Bulldogs listed players have been knocking down the door at VFL affiliate Williamstown for their AFL chance.

      “We are confident we have got more depth on our list this year,” McCartney said.

      “Our VFL team boys played really well on Saturday [and] played the right brand of footy.”

      “[They] all had a terrific impact on the game, so the ones that we do bring in from the VFL are in good form.”

      “[It’s] highly likely we will get our captain [Matthew Boyd] back and Ayce [Cordy] will be right to go again.”

      McCartney highlighted the performance of first round draftees Jack Macrae and Jake Stringer in Saturday’s VFL clash, and said they were firmly in the mix to make their senior debut this weekend.

      “Opportunities present for people and hopefully they will take them,” he said.

      “Two of our early picks played really well at Williamstown, so that puts them in the mix obviously, because we envisage four or maybe five changes.

      “They both played very well, they are high talent, very early in their career – one of them in particular hasn’t been able to train much because of an ankle injury, so he’s just getting his body accustomed to footy and did an extraordinary job on Saturday.”

      After playing his first competitive game in 2013 for Williamstown on the weekend, Tom Williams will remain in the VFL for a second consecutive week to regain touch.

      “Probably a week short, [he] played well, [and] needed the game,” he said.

      “It was his first game for the year, so to be fair to Tom [we’ll give him] another week to get ready.”
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      • Ghost Dog
        WOOF Member
        • May 2010
        • 9404

        Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
        Are we so conditioned to things going wrong that we dare not dream.

        Let Stringer and Macrae play. Just need to rest them as required.

        I know people are considering it as being realistic when we look to hold them back.

        "Realism is the most commonly trod path to Mediocrity" (Will Smith)
        Macrae yes, but Stringer was blowing like a steam train in the VFL.
        You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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        • wimberga
          WOOF Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 851

          Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

          Originally posted by Ghost Dog
          Macrae yes, but Stringer was blowing like a steam train in the VFL.
          Stringer was definitely blowing hard form what I saw.

          If the coaches think he can play out at least 3/4 of the game then I'm happy to back them in to play him. If they think its less than that, I would prefer they don't play him at all vs playing him as the sub. Ditto for Macrae though from all I have seen he is capable of running out a game.

          Wallis or Smith are good options as sub IMO if we choose to play both Stringer & Macrae this week.

          Whenever they do debut, I am really really excited to see what they can do for us in the big league. And judging from all known about Stringer to date, he knows he belongs there.

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          • BulldogBelle
            WOOF Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 5284

            Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

            Just play Stringer. Just play him. Let us give into this sweet, sweet temptation.

            Bring in Tutt as a combo and inform him that his job is to do all of the running required by Stringer as Stringer demands it.

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            • boydogs
              WOOF Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 5842

              Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

              Originally posted by St 07
              Just play Stringer. Just play him. Let us give into this sweet, sweet temptation.

              Bring in Tutt as a combo and inform him that his job is to do all of the running required by Stringer as Stringer demands it.
              Lol, give the man a runner, cricket style!
              If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

              Formerly gogriff

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              • jeemak
                Bulldog Legend
                • Oct 2010
                • 21626

                Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                Stringer's no doubt up to the standard talent wise, unfortunately for mine he's in a prime position to find himself injured with a calf strain or other soft tissue injury.

                As others have alluded to, the game at the elite level isn't the same as is at the secondary level, and a reasonably savvy defender who would have seen his exploits in the VFL would know that he's barely fit enough to run out a reserves grade game without risking injury as it is, and they'd run him all over the park.

                It's also worth noting that many of the medium sized defenders in the AFL, whilst not having the same size as Stringer probably have the same, if not greater, core strength as well as the mobility/fitness to go with him. They probably won't in the future, after a preseason or two.

                Maybe we play him as a sub, with the mind to have him come off a little after half time. Though as soon as we find ourselves with an early injury (maybe to a returning captain that isn't quite ready to go yet) we've placed him at risk. That's too much for me after watching him on TV at Williamstown last week.

                Happy for MacRae to take his place, either as the sub or starting on the ground. Many think starting first gamers as the sub isn't the right way to go, and think they should be on the ground straight away to help them get into it early. I've not seen any data to suggest this is the best way to go, and my gut tells me it doesn't really matter one way or another..
                TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                • Remi Moses
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 14785

                  Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                  Agree ^^ Big risk in particular early in the season.
                  Let the young bloke get a fitness base first.
                  No Hurry folks

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66242

                    Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                    Originally posted by Remi Moses
                    Agree ^^ Big risk in particular early in the season.
                    Let the young bloke get a fitness base first.
                    No Hurry folks
                    Pre-season is the time to get a fitness base.
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                    • LongWait
                      Draftee
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 938

                      Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Pre-season is the time to get a fitness base.
                      Stringer will take several years yet to build his optimal fitness base...and it won't all be done in pre-season.

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                      • Maddog37
                        WOOF Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3132

                        Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                        I still get edgy when Stringer goes for a ground ball and people dive across or into his legs. I think he is still a touch hesitant too in that situation.

                        My brain says he is not fit enough and that he needs at leat another week or two in the VFL but another part of me (not sure which part) says he is a freak and will make an impact regardless of all the reasons why he shouldn't be able to.

                        I would not like to be the one to tell him he is not getting a game!!

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                        • Ghost Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 9404

                          Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                          I would rather we lose every game for the rest of the season than have him do a serious injury.
                          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                          • whythelongface
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 4395

                            Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                            I would rather we lose every game for the rest of the season than have him do a serious injury.
                            So do you not play him because he is at risk of injury? When is the optimum time for him to make his debut? Does it matter if it is Round 4, 2013 or Round 1, 2014 in terms of potential injury.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66242

                              Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                              Originally posted by LongWait
                              Stringer will take several years yet to build his optimal fitness base...and it won't all be done in pre-season.
                              true
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                              • Bulldog Joe
                                Premiership Moderator
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 5516

                                Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                                Originally posted by whythelongface
                                So do you not play him because he is at risk of injury? When is the optimum time for him to make his debut? Does it matter if it is Round 4, 2013 or Round 1, 2014 in terms of potential injury.
                                Absolutely spot on.

                                If we can't play someone because there is a risk they will get injured, we can't ever play anyone.

                                Just get him in and let him play!!!!
                                Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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