Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14879

    Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

    Originally posted by Maddog37
    What about Jed Anderson at the Hwaks or Ollie Wines at Port? You have used selections to suit your case. Choose players on merit and Macrae has been the best Dogs listed player for the last two weeks.
    I thought he was talking about Stringer - he's clearly not ready, needs to work on his cardio/match fitness. I'd love to see him in the seniors but he can't be rushed.

    Macrae is on the opposite end of the scale for me - uninterrupted pre-season, worked hard on all aspects of his game, played in the NAB challenge and in the bests at VFL level.
    I'd have him in this week in a heartbeat - being interstate and travelling with the guys and being part of the build up in preparing for a senior AFL game can't hurt him either.
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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

      Well we gave Jong, and Skinner a go in the firsts, even when they didn't really earn it; more or less to have a look at what they offered. Macrae has offered more than either of these so far. He kicks goals! But if he does a Patton in Adelaide, it's going to really hurt the morale of the club. Because he is extra good, I hope we think carefully about this one.
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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

        Originally posted by Mofra
        I thought he was talking about Stringer - he's clearly not ready, needs to work on his cardio/match fitness. I'd love to see him in the seniors but he can't be rushed.

        Macrae is on the opposite end of the scale for me - uninterrupted pre-season, worked hard on all aspects of his game, played in the NAB challenge and in the bests at VFL level.
        I'd have him in this week in a heartbeat - being interstate and travelling with the guys and being part of the build up in preparing for a senior AFL game can't hurt him either.
        Was talking about Stringer yes and no match fitness yes. His legs were cooked by the end at Willy and he needed constant rotation.

        I'm like you and the many; let's get Macrae out there.

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        • wimberga
          WOOF Member
          • Nov 2007
          • 851

          Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

          Just on Macrae - I am happy for us to unveil him in the coming weeks but I really want to re-iterate that I dont want him to be the sub.

          Whilst I agree he may not be able to run out the game, please please please have him play from the start. I really dont like when players debut via the subs vest. it can be harder for them to get involved, hurt there confidence and ultimately they spend 3/4 of the game sitting on the pine doing nothing. If we are worried about fitness or whatever, please just start him and sub him off later if required.

          anyone agree?

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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

            Originally posted by wimberga
            Just on Macrae - I am happy for us to unveil him in the coming weeks but I really want to re-iterate that I dont want him to be the sub.

            Whilst I agree he may not be able to run out the game, please please please have him play from the start. I really dont like when players debut via the subs vest. it can be harder for them to get involved, hurt there confidence and ultimately they spend 3/4 of the game sitting on the pine doing nothing. If we are worried about fitness or whatever, please just start him and sub him off later if required.

            anyone agree?
            I don't know. But do not let the pressure of our recent capitulations put at risk our younger players. If they are ready, let them play. But we just saw how rushing it worked out for Easton Wood. I'd say the theory is, let the new guy be the sub, when the sting is out of the game.
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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66263

              Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
              I don't know. But do not let the pressure of our recent capitulations put at risk our younger players. If they are ready, let them play. But we just saw how rushing it worked out for Easton Wood. I'd say the theory is, let the new guy be the sub, when the sting is out of the game.
              I would like to see Macrae play a full game and Stringer the sub or subbed out. I know he isn't the perfect sub but I am also worried about him playing a full game.
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              • The Pie Man
                Coaching Staff
                • May 2008
                • 3498

                Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                Just seen the club's twitter feed update with a Macca presser :

                Sounds like Williams will be given another week in the VFL - which I can understand.
                Stringer & Macrae* in the mix
                Boyd to train tomorrow, call made following that.

                *Macrae you'd think is a cert
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                • G-Mo77
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9873

                  Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                  Originally posted by The Pie Man
                  *Macrae you'd think is a cert
                  I think so as well. Considering he played all? or most? pre-season games he'd certainly be one of the favourites to come in. We need a bit of polish so he'd be a welcome addition.

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                  • Missing-Dog
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3102

                    Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                    Would like to see Macrae get a game and I agree, not as a sub. Throw him into the mix, get him a few touches to get his confidence up and if he runs out of legs in teh 3rd qtr then sub him out.. Would like to see Grant play this week aswell, has the speed, has the height and has a few trick.. Just needs to apply himself and to be given some confidence.

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 14879

                      Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                      Originally posted by wimberga
                      Just on Macrae - I am happy for us to unveil him in the coming weeks but I really want to re-iterate that I dont want him to be the sub.

                      Whilst I agree he may not be able to run out the game, please please please have him play from the start. I really dont like when players debut via the subs vest. it can be harder for them to get involved, hurt there confidence and ultimately they spend 3/4 of the game sitting on the pine doing nothing. If we are worried about fitness or whatever, please just start him and sub him off later if required.

                      anyone agree?
                      Clay Smith started in his first game, played mostly in the centre and played well for 3 quarters before fatugue set in so a precedent is there for starting a debutant in the 21.
                      Jong started on the ground too didn't he? Roberts did as well although it's a little different as a young tall.

                      In any case if Stringer plays I imagine he'd be the sub anyway.
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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15335

                        Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                        Originally posted by DragzLS1
                        Would like to see Macrae get a game and I agree, not as a sub. Throw him into the mix, get him a few touches to get his confidence up and if he runs out of legs in the 3rd qtr then sub him out.. Would like to see Grant play this week aswell, has the speed, has the height and has a few trick.. Just needs to apply himself and to be given some confidence.
                        But what happens if we get an injury early in the game (like Wood last week) and our sub has already been activated?

                        Look I'm all for getting games into our young guys, but we need to be careful in how we introduce them into the team.

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                        • Bulldog Joe
                          Premiership Moderator
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 5516

                          Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                          Are we so conditioned to things going wrong that we dare not dream.

                          Let Stringer and Macrae play. Just need to rest them as required.

                          I know people are considering it as being realistic when we look to hold them back.

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                          • always right
                            WOOF Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 4189

                            Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                            Originally posted by Bulldog Joe;316219[B
                            ]"Realism is the most commonly trod path to Mediocrity" (Will Smith)[/B]

                            Did he say that in Independence Day or Men in Black?
                            I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                            • soupman
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 5093

                              Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                              Originally posted by always right
                              Did he say that in Independence Day or Men in Black?
                              I think it was in hitch
                              I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                              • The Underdog
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 6816

                                Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                                Originally posted by soupaman
                                I think it was in hitch
                                I thought Hitch was the path to mediocrity.
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