Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

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  • Nuggety Back Pocket
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 2064

    #61
    Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

    Originally posted by Greystache
    To me Stringer doesn't look like he would be able to run out a half at the moment, it's too big a risk with the potential of us getting an injury and needing him to play out a full game. Risky for us being effectively one player short, and risky to him doing a soft tissue injury.

    Vesz was pretty good on Saturday and I think if he's a chance to make it at AFL level it's as a midsized forward. He's never really had the chance to play that role because we've had Gia, Higgins, and now Dickson playing that role. The reality is Gia is gone now and will be gone offically at the end of the season, Dickson has struggled the last 2 weeks, and Higgins is a downhill skiier. Veszpremi is fighting for his footballing life this season, I think we should give him enough rope to either save or hang himself with it.

    We're getting nothing from the three mentioned, I think we should see if Veszpremi can offer any more. He's at least in the right age bracket that if he can offer us something he can do it for another 7-8 years.
    I appreciate your thoughts on Vesz. We are simply carrying too many passengers on the forward line like Gia Higgins and Dickson.
    We also lack depth experience and class in the midfield and both Griffen and Libba need more support. We need Boyd back desperately and it is time to move back Cooney to give us more grunt and pace. This then leaves Lower Stevens etc to become back up midfielders to the above mentioned.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66280

      #62
      Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
      I wanted him delisted too and as I said the chance would be just to remove any doubt left however I agree with you. He does need to string a few games together.

      Maybe keep Gia. Clutching at straws.
      You are not wrong there
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      • Greystache
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Dec 2009
        • 9775

        #63
        Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

        Originally posted by gogriff
        Whose replacing Higgins there, Macrae? I'd liked his goal sense yesterday but he's not the same type of player
        Yes MaCrae. The fact he's not the same type of player as Higgins forms much of the basis of his selection, along with his obvious exposed form.
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        • Greystache
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Dec 2009
          • 9775

          #64
          Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

          Originally posted by Nuggety Back Pocket
          I appreciate your thoughts on Vesz. We are simply carrying too many passengers on the forward line like Gia Higgins and Dickson.

          We also lack depth experience and class in the midfield and both Griffen and Libba need more support. We need Boyd back desperately and it is time to move back Cooney to give us more grunt and pace. This then leaves Lower Stevens etc to become back up midfielders to the above mentioned.
          I agree with you on Cooney. He looks just about fully fit now and should be spending a big percentage of the game in the middle. We need his pace and creativity as well as his ability to win the ball in close.
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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21669

            #65
            Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

            Originally posted by HairyMidget
            I have been one of the front runners for Higgins to be dropped and believe it should have happened last year to show him he is not untouchable. However I seem to recall, and please feel free to set me straight if any woofer knows this, that his family is close friends with Brendan McCartney? I heard it during an interview last year. I hope this isn't causing any bias on this decision? I'd like to think our coach is more professional than that.
            Higgins was close to best on ground in round one. Our problems this week had nothing to do with our forward line, at all. Our midfield pressure, ball winning ability, quality, irrespective of any stats you can throw up was disgraceful today. Players like Higgins with good defenders on them were on a hiding to nothing. They never had a chance.

            Our clubs issues aren't only in the forward half.
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            • Sedat
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2007
              • 11156

              #66
              Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

              Originally posted by Greystache
              I agree with you on Cooney. He looks just about fully fit now and should be spending a big percentage of the game in the middle. We need his pace and creativity as well as his ability to win the ball in close.
              Who would then be our defensive running rebounders? I love the idea of Coons in the middle but I dread the thought of who replaces him off half back.
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              • Rocco Jones
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jun 2008
                • 6924

                #67
                Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                Originally posted by Sedat
                Who would then be our defensive running rebounders? I love the idea of Coons in the middle but I dread the thought of who replaces him off half back.
                After the last couple of years, I'll settle for Cooney even resembling his old self anywhere on the field. I've been rapt with his first 3 games.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66280

                  #68
                  Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                  Originally posted by Sedat
                  Who would then be our defensive running rebounders? I love the idea of Coons in the middle but I dread the thought of who replaces him off half back.
                  Howard
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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #69
                    Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                    Dickson's defensive pressure is streets ahead of Vez. Dickson adheres to structures better, is an intelligent footballer, and covers a fair bit of ground (which I'm not sure Vez could do without blowing up).

                    He looks like he needs a rest though, as he appears to be troubled by some sort of injury, judging by the grimacing that was going on today.

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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11156

                      #70
                      Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                      Originally posted by metal
                      Dickson's defensive pressure is streets ahead of Vez. Dickson adheres to structures better, is an intelligent footballer, and covers a fair bit of ground (which I'm not sure Vez could do without blowing up).

                      He looks like he needs a rest though, as he appears to be troubled by some sort of injury, judging by the grimacing that was going on today.
                      I like Dickson for the reasons you've mentioned above but he has been poor the last 2 weeks and for most of the pre-season. He rolled an ankle today and looks like he needs a spell.
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                      • jeemak
                        Bulldog Legend
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 21669

                        #71
                        Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                        Originally posted by metal
                        Dickson's defensive pressure is streets ahead of Vez. Dickson adheres to structures better, is an intelligent footballer, and covers a fair bit of ground (which I'm not sure Vez could do without blowing up).

                        He looks like he needs a rest though, as he appears to be troubled by some sort of injury, judging by the grimacing that was going on today.
                        Originally posted by Sedat
                        I like Dickson for the reasons you've mentioned above but he has been poor the last 2 weeks and for most of the pre-season. He rolled an ankle today and looks like he needs a spell.
                        Dickson's a bit off at the moment. He doesn't seem at all buoyant.

                        Agree with Sedat's commentary on him, he's been that way for a few weeks. I think it's time to get him right with a week or two off and bring in Vez who really did show a lot yesterday.
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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66280

                          #72
                          Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          Dickson's a bit off at the moment. He doesn't seem at all buoyant.

                          Agree with Sedat's commentary on him, he's been that way for a few weeks. I think it's time to get him right with a week or two off and bring in Vez who really did show a lot yesterday.
                          Just watched the press conference, Boyd will be playing next week. Dickson rolled an ankle, I suspect he will be out, or at the very least should be dropped.
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                          • Greystache
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 9775

                            #73
                            Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                            Originally posted by Sedat
                            Who would then be our defensive running rebounders? I love the idea of Coons in the middle but I dread the thought of who replaces him off half back.
                            It just a matter of rotating an extra midfielder off half back rather than leaving Cooney there for extended periods. Stevens, Griffen etc along with JJ and Goodes being in defence permanently. Playing Cooney more through the midfield where he can have a greater impact on the game is needed more than his rebound off half back.
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                            • Greystache
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9775

                              #74
                              Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                              Originally posted by Sedat
                              I like Dickson for the reasons you've mentioned above but he has been poor the last 2 weeks and for most of the pre-season. He rolled an ankle today and looks like he needs a spell.
                              I'm the same as you, he definitely looks to be labouring at the moment.
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                              • boydogs
                                WOOF Member
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 5842

                                #75
                                Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                                Originally posted by Greystache
                                Yes MaCrae. The fact he's not the same type of player as Higgins forms much of the basis of his selection, along with his obvious exposed form.
                                I suspect this is a reference to Higgins' lack of workrate, but we do need his leading and marking down there. Fixing our half forward line issues by filling it with midfielders will result in a truck load of turnovers when going inside 50.
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