Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

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  • always right
    WOOF Member
    • Nov 2007
    • 4189

    #91
    Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

    Originally posted by Mofra
    I see him as the opposite of Gia in some respects.

    Gia is an endurance player, Vez plays in bursts. Vez has pace, Gia doesn't. Gia is smarter around goal and better overhead, but Vez can get away from his opponent more easily and is a longer kick.
    I don't disagree but I still think he will struggle to get separation from his opponent and like Gia and Higgins, he might struggle with defensive pressure.
    I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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    • F'scary
      WOOF Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 4089

      #92
      Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

      Originally posted by ozza
      one week of campbell in the side really raises cordy's stocks a bit!
      :d :d :d .
      Officially on the Bus-wagon

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      • Cyberdoggie
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 2859

        #93
        Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        This is about what I would do as well but I'd have Williams and maybe Veszpremi in contention as well. I think Dickson needs a spell but I think he was injured today.

        I agree that Stringer isn't ready yet and while it would be a popular move I don't think it's a good one just yet.
        I agree he needs another week before maybe a home game against the Cats for debut.
        However Williams barely got a kick in that game. He was invisible in the second half and i don't think promoting him after a single poor game would send the right message.

        On performances alone, Macrae, Veszpremi, Stringer and maybe Tutt should be in consideration

        They rushed Wood back and look what happened, i hope they don't do the same with Williams.

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        • Cyberdoggie
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 2859

          #94
          Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

          Originally posted by DragzLS1
          Macca will not make too many changes.

          Bring in Cordy Boyd and JJ.

          Would consider Tutt aswell but not sure who for as Macca will like to keep the same side on the park and give them another crack before he swings the axe
          He doesn't usually swing very hard and in his after match presser it sounded like he would take the same approach.

          Definate outs are: Wood, and likely Dickson (ankle), Campbell (omitted), Higgins (injured?)

          Definate ins: Boyd, JJ (if recovered), Cordy (if his back stops spasming),

          I'm guessing Macrae or Veszpremi for the other spot, probably Macrae.

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          • boydogs
            WOOF Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 5842

            #95
            Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

            Originally posted by Cyberdoggie
            He doesn't usually swing very hard and in his after match presser it sounded like he would take the same approach.

            Definate outs are: Wood, and likely Dickson (ankle), Campbell (omitted), Higgins (injured?)

            Definate ins: Boyd, JJ (if recovered), Cordy (if his back stops spasming),

            I'm guessing Macrae or Veszpremi for the other spot, probably Macrae.
            Bit of an imbalance there, JJ/Wood and Cordy/Campbell are like for like but then Dickson and Higgins going out for Boyd and possibly Macrae gives us too many mids and not enough forwards.

            No doubt Boyd and Macrae should come in, but I would add a couple more changes to bring Veszpremi and Grant/Stringer in to the forward line.
            If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

            Formerly gogriff

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14883

              #96
              Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

              Originally posted by gogriff
              Bit of an imbalance there, JJ/Wood and Cordy/Campbell are like for like but then Dickson and Higgins going out for Boyd and possibly Macrae gives us too many mids and not enough forwards.
              Macrae can play half forward (won't be able to run out a game in the midfield anyway), and we had Cross & Smith rotating forward against Freo - they looked good at times.
              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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              • lemmon
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Nov 2008
                • 6508

                #97
                Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                Originally posted by Mofra
                Macrae can play half forward (won't be able to run out a game in the midfield anyway), and we had Cross & Smith rotating forward against Freo - they looked good at times.
                Agree, we've seen Cooney and Griff go forward at times as well, Stevens too. Has looked like we've been going with a few too many forwards anyway, Dahl, Gia, Higgins and Dickson were all played predominantly as smalls

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                • Bulldog Revolution
                  Coaching Staff
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 3924

                  #98
                  Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                  In: - JJ; Vez, Macrae; Cordy

                  Out: Wood; Higgins; Dickson; Campbell

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                  • Nuggety Back Pocket
                    WOOF Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2064

                    #99
                    Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                    I know that there have been concerns about Stringer's level of fitness but when you consider what we have witnessed from Cordy Campbell Gia Higgins and Dickson so far we could do a lot worse than throw Stringer into the side. The same could be said of Macrae JJ and Talia. We really have little to lose by bringing them in supported by the likes of the experienced Boyd Griffen Minson Murphy Morris, Cooney and Picken.
                    Unfortunately we still have 7-8 players on our list who do not cut it at a senior level and as was shown at the end of last year a further large turn over is required..

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                    • JohnGentStand
                      WOOF Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 290

                      Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                      Ins: Williams, Boyd, Vespremi, Grant

                      Outs, Higgins, Dickson, Wood, Campbell

                      bide your time young guns, we will unleash you soon enough....
                      I'm paying money, the girl's happy, she's got no money, I got my rocks off, how good is this...

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                      • Bulldog4life
                        WOOF Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 9607

                        Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                        I would go slightly left field and bring Pearce in to take Picken's place in the back pocket so Picken can go to the forward line. JJ to take Wood's place. Cordy in for Campbell. Ves in for Dickson and Boydy in for an unlucky Smith.


                        So Ins: JJ, Cordy, Boyd, Vespremi, Pearce

                        Outs, Higgins, Dickson, Wood, Campbell, Smith

                        Plenty of time for the new guys to debut.
                        Last edited by Bulldog4life; 16-04-2013, 12:38 PM. Reason: spelling

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                        • soupman
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 5094

                          Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                          FB: 20. Pearce, 23. Roughead, 38. Morris
                          HB: 44. Goodes, 31. Young, 17. Cooney
                          W: 4. Cross, 5. Boyd, 42. Picken
                          HF: 2. Murphy, 19. Jones, 6. Dahlhaus
                          FF: 13. Giansiracusa, 49. Cordy, 1. Grant
                          R: 27. Minson, 16. Griffen, 21. Liberatore

                          I: 3. Wallis, 15. Tutt, 25. Stevens, 33. Lower

                          My changes:

                          Outs: Dickson (inj), Higgins (inj), Wood (inj), Campbell (omitted), Smith (omitted)
                          Ins: Boyd, Cordy, Tutt, Grant, Pearce

                          Boyd comes in obviously, and since none of the forced changes are inside mids Clay Smith is the least performed of them and as a result gets dropped, We've been trying to play him in a more outside role anyway which doesn't play to his strengths so I'd rather him play inside at Willy this week.

                          Cordy comes in for Campbell. Cordy hasn't been great, but at least with him he offers us something and I feel like he might click one day, while Campbell I don't rate and unfortunately I think the only thing he really has going for him is his musical taste. He's an inneffectual ruckman and an even poorer forward.

                          Pearce comes in for Wood. I like JJ but Pearce played well last week and is a bit bigger than JJ. I wouldn't be fussed if JJ got the nod though. We need this defender as it means Picken doesn't have to play defence.

                          Grant in for Dickson. Grant comes in to give us a pacier version of Higgins/Dickson. I think Grant has a few unique attributes that need to be persisted with and we need him to give our forwardline a point of difference to slow half forwards and double teamed key forwards.

                          Tutt comes in for Higgins. I want Tutt in because he has pace, endurance and kicking skills. He effectively becomes the high half forward/wingman that Higgins and Smith have been playing with limited effect.

                          Wallis is sub, meaning our midfield is less inside heavy, especially with Boyds return.

                          Was very tempted to bring Macrae in, but I'll give him another week. Stringer did look awesome, but I don't think he is fit enough yet and I'm happy for him to play a few more games for Willy before he has to take the next step up. Veszpremi is unlucky but I rate Grant way ahead of him.
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                          • always right
                            WOOF Member
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 4189

                            Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                            Originally posted by soupaman
                            FB: 20. Pearce, 23. Roughead, 38. Morris
                            HB: 44. Goodes, 31. Young, 17. Cooney
                            W: 4. Cross, 5. Boyd, 42. Picken
                            HF: 2. Murphy, 19. Jones, 6. Dahlhaus
                            FF: 13. Giansiracusa, 49. Cordy, 1. Grant
                            R: 27. Minson, 16. Griffen, 21. Liberatore

                            I: 3. Wallis, 15. Tutt, 25. Stevens, 33. Lower

                            My changes:

                            Outs: Dickson (inj), Higgins (inj), Wood (inj), Campbell (omitted), Smith (omitted)
                            Ins: Boyd, Cordy, Tutt, Grant, Pearce

                            Boyd comes in obviously, and since none of the forced changes are inside mids Clay Smith is the least performed of them and as a result gets dropped, We've been trying to play him in a more outside role anyway which doesn't play to his strengths so I'd rather him play inside at Willy this week.

                            Cordy comes in for Campbell. Cordy hasn't been great, but at least with him he offers us something and I feel like he might click one day, while Campbell I don't rate and unfortunately I think the only thing he really has going for him is his musical taste. He's an inneffectual ruckman and an even poorer forward.

                            Pearce comes in for Wood. I like JJ but Pearce played well last week and is a bit bigger than JJ. I wouldn't be fussed if JJ got the nod though. We need this defender as it means Picken doesn't have to play defence.

                            Grant in for Dickson. Grant comes in to give us a pacier version of Higgins/Dickson. I think Grant has a few unique attributes that need to be persisted with and we need him to give our forwardline a point of difference to slow half forwards and double teamed key forwards.

                            Tutt comes in for Higgins. I want Tutt in because he has pace, endurance and kicking skills. He effectively becomes the high half forward/wingman that Higgins and Smith have been playing with limited effect.

                            Wallis is sub, meaning our midfield is less inside heavy, especially with Boyds return.

                            Was very tempted to bring Macrae in, but I'll give him another week. Stringer did look awesome, but I don't think he is fit enough yet and I'm happy for him to play a few more games for Willy before he has to take the next step up. Veszpremi is unlucky but I rate Grant way ahead of him.
                            Good summary Soupaman. Disagree with your comments on McCrae however. I think the coach will be keen to elevate him.
                            I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                            • F'scary
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 4089

                              Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                              Campbell is simply not a 2nd ruck. I'd rather Cross or Markovic in the role.
                              Or even Hrovat.
                              Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                              • Happy Days
                                Hall of Fame
                                • May 2008
                                • 10102

                                Re: Match Committee- Round 4 vs Adelaide

                                Anyone calling for Macrae to not come in, why? He's our best player at the level below, this isn't a case of fast tracking for the sake of it.
                                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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