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  • The Underdog
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Aug 2007
    • 6877

    Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

    Originally posted by Twodogs
    We definitely need a developing ruck. What's everyone's opinion on Darcy Fort? He runs out of petrol tickets pretty quickly but if he could get his fitness up he is a very good competitor. And a lovely tap Ruckman too.
    I'm definitely pro rookie listing him. I thought there was some positive signs there but he needs a good couple of years of development.
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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14972

      Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

      Originally posted by G-Mo77
      Prudden I haven't even seen play at all. I'm wondering if he actually exists.
      Last full game I saw from him he looked like a tall Hrovat. Killed it at VFL level.

      Injuries are his problem, not talent or application.
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      • The Underdog
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Aug 2007
        • 6877

        Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

        Originally posted by Mofra
        Last full game I saw from him he looked like a tall Hrovat. Killed it at VFL level.

        Injuries are his problem, not talent or application.
        For a kid who hasn't had a consistent run at footy since he's been there, he's certainly looked like he belongs in the short bursts he's had.
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        • Greystache
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Dec 2009
          • 9775

          Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

          Originally posted by Mofra
          Last full game I saw from him he looked like a tall Hrovat. Killed it at VFL level.

          Injuries are his problem, not talent or application.
          It's a concerningly long time ago now, but agree, he was a standout that day.

          For all the potential he has, and I'm a big fan, he needs a decent run at it next year and has to show something or he might be in trouble.
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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9876

            Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

            Originally posted by Twodogs
            We definitely need a developing ruck. What's everyone's opinion on Darcy Fort? He runs out of petrol tickets pretty quickly but if he could get his fitness up he is a very good competitor. And a lovely tap Ruckman too.
            ONly saw him a couple of times and was impressed. Perfect rookie list stash option IMO.

            Originally posted by Mofra
            Last full game I saw from him he looked like a tall Hrovat. Killed it at VFL level.

            Injuries are his problem, not talent or application.
            Cheers Mofra. I was hoping to see him last season because I have heard good things. Fingers crossed 2015 is a better one for him.

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            • Bulldog Joe
              Premiership Moderator
              • Jul 2009
              • 5580

              Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              I don't believe we can re-rookie Greenwood as he has already done 3 years.
              I am pretty sure we are still entitled to draft him as a rookie. We just have to let him go to the draft and anyone can draft him. That includes us.
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              • Bulldog Joe
                Premiership Moderator
                • Jul 2009
                • 5580

                Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                Can anyone confirm if Fuller is contracted for next year?
                He would have a 2 year contract but we can delist him. He then goes in the draft and if he is picked by someone else we have no further commitment.
                If he remains undrafted, we can take him with our last rookie spot to meet our part of the contract.
                We can also just cut him free and pay him out. The payment would then be part of the 2015 total player payment.
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                • F'scary
                  WOOF Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 4089

                  Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                  Some more thoughts on how to use our 5 picks inside the top 50. I am assuming our list will be trimmed by 2 (Tutt + one more).

                  26. High accumulating pacy midfielder with excellent disposal skills. Why: we just need more of this.

                  27. CHF prospect who has a tank. Why: CHF needs are obvious and with the likes of Boyd & Stringer deep, mobility and a tank rather than an oak tree should be the order.

                  39. Defensive midfielder with excellent disposal skills. Why: look to upgrade the skills on the roles played by Boyd & Picken at the moment.

                  45. Hard nut state league midfielder about 22-24 years old and battle ready for 2015. Why: we have lost a lot of experience and need to add to the round 1 ready players we have acquired such as T Boyd, Biggs, possibly Hamling and perhaps Jong.

                  46. Something a bit out of left field such as a smaller player who is an excellent mark or a mobile ruckman who mightn't be that tall but has a massive tank and a good pair of hands or someone who is just a great natural footballer but isn't quite big or fast enough to attract attention earlier in the draft. Why: we are progressing reasonably well with building a core of players who fit the modern cookie cutter mould for the positions they play. By pick 46 the value may lie in someone who ticks the most of the obvious boxes except the ones they can do nothing about such as height or speed as opposed to prospects who look the part but are more athlete than footballer.
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                  • Remi Moses
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 14785

                    Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                    I'd still be going key back with one of the picks.
                    Go with a mid with the other pick ( hopefully someone falls through)
                    With the other picks I'd go best available at that pick .

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                    • The Bulldogs Bite
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 11269

                      Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                      I still hope we consider taking a key forward if one we rate is available.

                      Reality is we have only two key forwards on our list: Boyd and Redpath. One is very young and will need support, whilst the other is an unknown and probably more unlikely than likely to become a good AFL player. I'd love for Redpath to prove that statement wrong as I like how he has developed, but if we're being honest, this is the situation as it currently stands.

                      Agree we still need a key defender. Not convinced on Roughy as a defender and Talia/Roberts/Hamling aren't proven nor are they monsters per se.

                      We definitely need to add mids to the mix, but having said that, I expect us to have a top 4 pick next year where we can land a likely gun mid.

                      A half back type of player would be nice but probably not high on the priority list given our other needs and the fact that we do have JJ/Darley/Fuller/Prudden/Biggs as options albeit very unproven. Nevertheless, there's competition there for now.

                      So for me and in NO order:

                      - x1 key forward (McKenzie maybe, Hammelmann?) Probably unlikely much quality will be left by our picks
                      - x1 key defender (Hammelmann? McDonald? Keitel? Should be some quality still on the board. Any of these 3 could be solid options.
                      - x2 mids (Menadue, Blakely, McKenzie, Gore etc.) A mix of run and ball winning ability is needed. Should be some good options left.
                      - x1 Best Available Always think that with your last pick, just go best available. If there's no KF as above, maybe our last two selections should be best available.
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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66785

                        Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                        Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                        Reality is we have only two key forwards on our list: Boyd and Redpath.

                        Not convinced on Roughy as a defender and Talia/Roberts/Hamling aren't proven nor are they monsters per se.
                        Roughy to the forward line giving us three talls up forward and three in the backline.
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                        • always right
                          WOOF Member
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 4189

                          Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Roughy to the forward line giving us three talls up forward and three in the backline.
                          Three unproven talls in the backline. Reckon we need to draft another.
                          I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66785

                            Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                            Originally posted by always right
                            Three unproven talls in the backline. Reckon we need to draft another.
                            Yes agree, but three unproven in forward line as well.
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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15326

                              Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                              So where to with Roughead then? We seem to be unsure if he is a defender, forward or a ruck.
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • Missing Dog
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8501

                                Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                                Originally posted by always right
                                Three unproven talls in the backline. Reckon we need to draft another.
                                Z Cordy?

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