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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    #1

    Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

    Who are you predicting for a Bolter, Slider & Complete Pass?
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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45505

    #2
    Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

    From our perspective I think Sam Murray or perhaps Brandon White might be the bolter and the slider could be Darcy Tucker. I think we will get someone from the Gippsland Power but I'm not certain who.
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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #3
      Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

      Early doors, I'm going for Marcus Adams as bolter (21/30) and Sam Skinner as slider for us (30/51). I'd be rapt with Matthew Flynn, Matthew Allen or Nick Coughlan as Rookie.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 45505

        #4
        Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

        Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
        Early doors, I'm going for Marcus Adams as bolter (21/30) and Sam Skinner as slider for us (30/51). I'd be rapt with Matthew Flynn, Matthew Allen or Nick Coughlan as Rookie.
        Adams could be an excellent option as a somewhat mature pick-up. Seems mobile enough and has good size. I get the impression though that we have tended to stay away from WA players in recent years but I do rate him.
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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #5
          Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Adams could be an excellent option as a somewhat mature pick-up. Seems mobile enough and has good size. I get the impression though that we have tended to stay away from WA players in recent years but I do rate him.
          The only reason we would avoid a WA pick would be for the go home factor, which our list managers would need to assess on an individual basis. Adams is mature age, so hopefully the homesickness type issues are less of a factor than they may be for a teenager?

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45505

            #6
            Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

            Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
            The only reason we would avoid a WA pick would be for the go home factor, which our list managers would need to assess on an individual basis. Adams is mature age, so hopefully the homesickness type issues are less of a factor than they may be for a teenager?
            I'd be surprised if that (homesickness) was the reason as we would assess the individual from every other state the same way and I'm not sure homesickness is more relevant for WA players than anywhere else.
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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #7
              Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              I'd be surprised if that (homesickness) was the reason as we would assess the individual from every other state the same way and I'm not sure homesickness is more relevant for WA players than anywhere else.
              Why else would we shy away from WA players?

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 45505

                #8
                Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

                Originally posted by PeanutsPeanuts
                Why else would we shy away from WA players?
                I don't know but we have been avoiding drafting players from there for a while.
                In 2010 we took Schofield and Johannisen (as a rookie) and we haven't drafted a WA boy since. Now WA have had a couple of lean years at the State titles etc but the time before that when we last drafted some WA boys was back in 2006 when we drafted Hill and Stack. So in 9 years that's 4 players from a strong footy state. Going back further I think the time before that was Wayde Skipper back in 2000.

                I don't believe it can be a homesickness consideration over that period of time because it doesn't appear to be a problem for other clubs. Now I know we made a play for Jack Martin so elite talent will win out and we might not have had the picks to get players like him or Hogan but my theory is that unless a player has some major talent we have tended to avoid WA players. For this year I could see us going after Ah Chee but perhaps it's vastly harder for someone like Glass-McCasker because he is from WA. We got Hamling via Geelong but it hasn't read that well with drafting players from WA.

                Just a theory though, this might be the year it changes.
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                • LostDoggy
                  WOOF Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 8307

                  #9
                  Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

                  http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-11-14/talented-key-defender-ryan-gardner-attracting-interest-ahead-of-draft

                  AFL article on Ryan Gardner. Don't know much about him but sounds a type that could interest us as a late pick/bolter.

                  Looks a good build, even if he does look a little like k d lang!!

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                  • Mofra
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 15112

                    #10
                    Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

                    Sam Skinner as a bolter? Aggressive and makes the repeat efforts recruiters like, can imagine him going higher than BF group-think suggests
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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      #11
                      Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

                      Originally posted by Mofra
                      Sam Skinner as a bolter? Aggressive and makes the repeat efforts recruiters like, can imagine him going higher than BF group-think suggests
                      In my little wish list, I've got Skinner as a good option at 30. Don't know if that quite makes him a bolter. 21 not completely out of the question - that'd qualify him I reckon.

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                      • The Bulldogs Bite
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11406

                        #12
                        Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

                        Skinner looks a good prospect, though with the knee (assuming he's out for another 6 months?) he might be taken from 30 onwards?

                        There should at least be some interesting options available at 21 and 30 in terms of KPDs (McKay, Collins, Skinner, Adams)
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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 67678

                          #13
                          Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

                          There will be a lot of clubs concerned with Burton and he may slide a bit.
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                          • F'scary
                            WOOF Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 4089

                            #14
                            Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            There will be a lot of clubs concerned with Burton and he may slide a bit.
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                            • F'scary
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 4089

                              #15
                              Re: Draft Day Bolters, Sliders & Complete Passes

                              Originally posted by F'scary
                              Stringer mk2?
                              By that I mean, if he is there at our first pick, it would have to be a huge temptation.

                              I remember reading that Stringer would have been #1 if not for his injury. Gamble has paid off big time, I feel like rolling the dice again, particularly with the overall depth that has emerged in our list over the past 12 months.
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