Father/Son Watch

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I must have missed something. Rohan Smith's lad Jacob played his 2nd game for Footscray today according to afl.com.au and is an outside chance for father son this year. Anyone have any info on this?

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I must have missed something. Rohan Smith's lad Jacob played his 2nd game for Footscray today according to afl.com.au and is an outside chance for father son this year. Anyone have any info on this?

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I must have missed something. Rohan Smith's lad Jacob played his 2nd game for Footscray today according to afl.com.au and is an outside chance for father son this year. Anyone have any info on this?

I've assumed he's not getting drafted so not really paid much attention. If he's now in the mix and gets selected then I have conflict of interest issues with Smith staying on.

[ledge]

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I've assumed he's not getting drafted so not really paid much attention. If he's now in the mix and gets selected then I have conflict of interest issues with Smith staying on.

Rohan is development coach and I would say Jacob has been around the club football wise since he was 14 in some shape or form, i don't see any problem as he is not a head coach of Footscray or the Bulldogs.
Im not sure how you get a conflict of interest he will be trying his best to develop him, that's his job.
Admittedly Jacob has a heads up and will get extra help as he has all his life living with Rohan.
If the recruiting team or Luke think he is better than players in the draft at whatever pick he must be taken he will be taken, if not so be it.

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Rohan is development coach and I would say Jacob has been around the club football wise since he was 14 in some shape or form, i don't see any problem as he is not a head coach of Footscray or the Bulldogs.
Im not sure how you get a conflict of interest he will be trying his best to develop him, that's his job.
Admittedly Jacob has a heads up and will get extra help as he has all his life living with Rohan.
If the recruiting team or Luke think he is better than players in the draft at whatever pick he must be taken he will be taken, if not so be it.

Conflicts on interest can be 'real' or 'perceived' as you'd know. I'm pretty sure Craig McDermott cited that as a reason for standing down to give his son Alaister a clear run at the top level. I'm personally not comfortable with it, but if the club is and drafts him then that's fine.

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Conflicts on interest can be 'real' or 'perceived' as you'd know. I'm pretty sure Craig McDermott cited that as a reason for standing down to give his son Alaister a clear run at the top level. I'm personally not comfortable with it, but if the club is and drafts him then that's fine.

Given Jacob has primarily played school footy, not played much TAC and not played National championships then he's perhaps likely to be a rookie lost at best?

I don't have.a big issue with us selecting him with a late rookie spot if the recruiters rate him

[ledge]

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But I'm not sure what the conflict of interest is . His dad's job is to get the best out of young players.
He would actually know how to get the best out of him more than anyone , wouldn't that be a plus more than a conflict ?
Rohan doesn't pick the teams so I don't see it as an issue.

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Given Jacob has primarily played school footy, not played much TAC and not played National championships then he's perhaps likely to be a rookie lost at best?

I don't have.a big issue with us selecting him with a late rookie spot if the recruiters rate him

Agree. If he is good enough, and he appears to have played well with St.Kevins in a small snippet I read,we should either draft him or rookie list him irrespective of Rohan being with us.

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Given Jacob has primarily played school footy, not played much TAC and not played National championships then he's perhaps likely to be a rookie lost at best?

I don't have.a big issue with us selecting him with a late rookie spot if the recruiters rate him

I have no issue with recruiting him, if he's good enough. My issue is after that a conflict of interest arises in my mind. Will other young players think he's getting preferential treatment? Will some players think he's being selected in certain roles or teams because his dad can influence things? Will some players have a possible problem with it?

Once that stuff starts, which will be in whispers around the club and not a formal thing, it isn't a good thing to have going on. If Bubba is a good assistant then I'm sure he will get a job at another club.

[ledge]

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I have no issue with recruiting him, if he's good enough. My issue is after that a conflict of interest arises in my mind. Will other young players think he's getting preferential treatment? Will some players think he's being selected in certain roles or teams because his dad can influence things? Will some players have a possible problem with it?

Once that stuff starts, which will be in whispers around the club and not a formal thing, it isn't a good thing to have going on. If Bubba is a good assistant then I'm sure he will get a job at another club.

Your making an issue of something thats in your mind but could be a million miles from the truth.
I wouldn't be worrying about something that might not be. He hasn't even been drafted and we don't even know if Rohan will be with us next year ..
Also a little insulting to Bubba assuming that. You seem to be burning him at the stake on a situation that might not even happen.
Professional clubs ,bubba himself would understand all that I believe he is better than that.

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I'm not saying that it's right or wrong but isn't there a kid playing at one of the clubs his dad is in the coaching group at?

Might be thinking of Steve Silvagni maybe. Him recruiting his own son is a COI under BT's interpretation which I agree with in principle but am trying to think of why it shouldn't apply with us.

[ledge]

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I'm not saying that it's right or wrong but isn't there a kid playing at one of the clubs his dad is in the coaching group at?

Might be thinking of Steve Silvagni maybe. Him recruiting his own son is a COI under BT's interpretation which I agree with in principle but am trying to think of why it shouldn't apply with us.

Im sure it would be more than Stephen that chooses him in that case , you couldn't pick your son without the whole recruiting and coach agreeing.
And yes Stephen is recruiter At Carlton.
We get caught up in situations that aren't really their sometimes.
Do you actually think Rohan could get his son selected if he wasn't good enough ?

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Im sure it would be more than Stephen that chooses him in that case , you couldn't pick your son without the whole recruiting and coach agreeing.
And yes Stephen is recruiter At Carlton.
We get caught up in situations that aren't really their sometimes.
Do you actually think Rohan could get his son selected if he wasn't good enough ?

Agree with you Ledge, besides, the match committee selects the players and when they discuss Smith's son, he would just butt out and let the committee choose.

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I'm not saying that it's right or wrong but isn't there a kid playing at one of the clubs his dad is in the coaching group at?

Donald & Luke McDonald at North, which lead to Eugene Arocca leaving

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Your making an issue of something thats in your mind but could be a million miles from the truth.
I wouldn't be worrying about something that might not be. He hasn't even been drafted and we don't even know if Rohan will be with us next year ..
Also a little insulting to Bubba assuming that. You seem to be burning him at the stake on a situation that might not even happen.
Professional clubs ,bubba himself would understand all that I believe he is better than that.

That's why it's called a perceived conflict of interest. I'm not saying anything about Bubba. If the club is cool with it, so be it. But I'm not a fan of the idea of fathers and sons in the our afl set up.