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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45542

    #196
    Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

    Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
    Interesting - i Just cant see North passing on Brayshaw at 4 though
    Me either.
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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #197
      Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

      Twomey has some big sliders; Stephenson at 17, Brander at 20, Hayes at 25.

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      • Bulldog Revolution
        Coaching Staff
        • Dec 2006
        • 3933

        #198
        Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Coffield and Richards interest me as they play the game in an attacking manner and if Stephenson was available he would be hard to pass over unless the medico's have strong doubts but given all that I don't see why if we were to get Naughton it wouldn't be seen a good selection.

        If Raynor goes pick 1 then Fogarty won't be there for pick 16. If Brayshaw goes pick 1 then Fogarty is a chance for us.

        Could we even pull a surprise at pick 16?
        Yes, thats partly the way I see it

        If Naughton is available then hes a solid selection - athletic, competitive and aerial - I'd like a playmaker with the next pick

        I hope we've really put Stephenson through a battery of tests etc

        Dalrymple can always surprise - he generally does, try to guess what hes going to do, and he will seldom do it - and then when we least expect it, maybe he will make the conventional pick - but maybe he won't

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        • Missing Dog
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8501

          #199
          Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

          Originally posted by GVGjr
          Coffield and Richards interest me as they play the game in an attacking manner and if Stephenson was available he would be hard to pass over unless the medico's have strong doubts but given all that I don't see why if we were to get Naughton it wouldn't be seen a good selection.

          If Raynor goes pick 1 then Fogarty won't be there for pick 16. If Brayshaw goes pick 1 then Fogarty is a chance for us.

          Could we even pull a surprise at pick 16?
          I think Naughton will be a good player. The main issue I have with it is we currently have 5 defenders (6 if you count Mullenger-McHugh) with under 50 games played. Adding another young developing tall isn't something we need, in fact it's the last thing we need. It will be difficult to develop them in the VFL if all are fit.

          Anyway if Stephenson's there at 16, it would be a strange feeling. Must be very serious, I'd still like us to take the risk.

          I wonder if Houlahan and Bailey are in the mix at pick 16.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67691

            #200
            Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

            Originally posted by bulldogsman
            I think Naughton will be a good player. The main issue I have with it is we currently have 5 defenders (6 if you count Mullenger-McHugh) with under 50 games played. Adding another young developing tall isn't something we need, in fact it's the last thing we need. It will be difficult to develop them in the VFL if all are fit.

            Anyway if Stephenson's there at 16, it would be a strange feeling. Must be very serious, I'd still like us to take the risk.

            I wonder if Houlahan and Bailey are in the mix at pick 16.
            Twomey has Bailey at 14, and I can't see Houlahan in the top30
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            • The Adelaide Connection
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2009
              • 2844

              #201
              Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Coffield and Richards interest me as they play the game in an attacking manner and if Stephenson was available he would be hard to pass over unless the medico's have strong doubts but given all that I don't see why if we were to get Naughton it wouldn't be seen a good selection.

              If Raynor goes pick 1 then Fogarty won't be there for pick 16. If Brayshaw goes pick 1 then Fogarty is a chance for us.

              Could we even pull a surprise at pick 16?
              Herald Sun reporting that the Lions had a marathon session today and settled on Rayner. They had considered getting ANdrew Brayshaw and taking Hamish late as well to help him settle, but they flipped back and now hope to get L. Fogarty at 15. They are understandably spooked by 'go home' concerns.



              UPDATE: BRISBANE Lions are set to settle on Cameron Rayner as this year’s No.1 draft pick after holding a marathon list meeting on Wednesday.

              The Herald Sun understands the Lions will hold their nerve and take the explosive goalkicker, who they rank as the best player in the draft.

              The Lions yesterday discussed whether to instead take future leader Andrew Brayshaw at No.1 and also select brother Hamish to help the pair relocate north.

              But Brisbane is confident Rayner will adjust to life at the Gabba under the club’s impressive new leadership and develop into a damaging midfielder.

              Barring a last-minute backflip, Rayner is their man...

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              • Go_Dogs
                Hall of Fame
                • Jan 2007
                • 10251

                #202
                Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

                Couple of quick thoughts:-

                If Stephenson drops to 9 we absolutely have to take him (based on no understanding of his medical condition other than the public statement it won't impact his career).

                If Naughton is available we can't select him because he's a 200 game player, or even because he's a slight potential upgrade on our stocks. We do it if he's clearly better than the small available. And we should value the small above Naughton even if we see him (the mid) as a 4th cog - we saw how quickly midfield dynamics change this year and we need quality there.
                Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                • The Bulldogs Bite
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 11407

                  #203
                  Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

                  Very interested to see where both Stephenson and Bonar land on Friday night.

                  If available I hope we punt on one of them.
                  W00F!

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                  • KT31
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5455

                    #204
                    Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

                    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
                    Very interested to see where both Stephenson and Bonar land on Friday night.

                    If available I hope we punt on one of them.
                    As mentioned earlier would be wrapped if we ended up with Stephenson.
                    It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                    • Go_Dogs
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 10251

                      #205
                      Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

                      Finally had a better read of CT’s phantom draft, I understand he probably has access to some inside information and certainly watches junior footy but if things fall the way he has speculated I’ll be shocked.

                      The top 6 players he’s named make some sense, not convinced on his order. After that, I’m surprised if Stephenson isn’t snapped up by the Saints. Despite a lot of conjecture I remain unconvinced we’d grab Naughton.

                      Carlton and Richards potentially, not sure O’Brien is a Swans selection at 14 and not sure about Adelaide needing another forward in Bonar (I realise he could develop into a midfielder) and WCE can surely do better than Allen in the top 15.

                      Such an open draft though, so while I’m not convinced on some of his choices it does demonstrate how exciting tomorrow is going to be.
                      Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                      • Go_Dogs
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 10251

                        #206
                        Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

                        I’m also wondering whether we just blow the whole thing up by selecting Murphy at 9 and Stoddart at 16. Gives us 2 additional players who are strong in the air with plenty of development in them. We could be happy to allow them a season at VFL level before they really come into the frame for selection.

                        It may seem early for both but I rate them highly. I’m unsure what a typical Dalrymple pick is, however this could go close to the kind of thing we’ve come to expect.
                        Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          #207
                          Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

                          Cal Twomey is now doing a 'late mail phantom draft' tonight.

                          Maybe wants to correct his phantom draft from 24 hours ago?
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                          • mjp
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 7474

                            #208
                            Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            Cal Twomey is now doing a 'late mail phantom draft' tonight.

                            Maybe wants to correct his phantom draft from 24 hours ago?
                            Two lots of web traffic > one.
                            What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 45542

                              #209
                              Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

                              Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                              I’m also wondering whether we just blow the whole thing up by selecting Murphy at 9 and Stoddart at 16. Gives us 2 additional players who are strong in the air with plenty of development in them. We could be happy to allow them a season at VFL level before they really come into the frame for selection.

                              It may seem early for both but I rate them highly. I’m unsure what a typical Dalrymple pick is, however this could go close to the kind of thing we’ve come to expect.
                              It wouldn't surprise me if we landed someone at pick 16 that hasn't been given much of a mention maybe one of the SA boys. Murphy at 9 wouldn't surprise me either.
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                              • kruder
                                Coaching Staff
                                • May 2011
                                • 3912

                                #210
                                Re: WOOF Phantom Drafts

                                Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                                Couple of quick thoughts:-

                                If Stephenson drops to 9 we absolutely have to take him (based on no understanding of his medical condition other than the public statement it won't impact his career).

                                If Naughton is available we can't select him because he's a 200 game player, or even because he's a slight potential upgrade on our stocks. We do it if he's clearly better than the small available. And we should value the small above Naughton even if we see him (the mid) as a 4th cog - we saw how quickly midfield dynamics change this year and we need quality there.
                                If you were going to take the risk with Stevenson you would absolutely be putting it out there that you weren't interested due to his potential heart issue in the hope he slides.Its a hard one for the journo to judge I reckon where he will land if he fell to pick 16 surely we take the risk there?

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