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  • mjp
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 7382

    #61
    Re: 2019 Draft Watch

    Originally posted by The Doctor
    looking forward to seeing some of the SA forwards like Taheny, Morris, Coff & Pickett during the nationals. Was very impressed with WA boys Taylor, Bennell and Henry against Metro. Loved Taylors goal in the last 1/4

    This is where we have to address deficiencies on our list. Skilful goalkickers!
    We have no excuse for not selecting Taylor. Most talented player in the draft.
    What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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    • hujsh
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2007
      • 11849

      #62
      Re: 2019 Draft Watch

      Originally posted by mjp
      We have no excuse for not selecting Taylor. Most talented player in the draft.
      So he's going to go as a rookie next year then?
      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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      • mjp
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jan 2007
        • 7382

        #63
        Re: 2019 Draft Watch

        Originally posted by hujsh
        So he's going to go as a rookie next year then?
        Yeah. 100% undrafted. He’s a teenage, indigenous kid (from the ‘burbs, not a country town so that is a spanner in my argument) who sleeps in late and plays fortnight (I don’t really know exactly what that is but he plays it). Oh - and is still recovering from air sickness after standing on some poor vic metro kids shoulder s in the 2nd quarter last week.

        He’s 100% trouble with a capital t!

        Don’t worry though. Damian Hardwick will save him.
        What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27658

          #64
          Re: 2019 Draft Watch

          Its Fortnite Mike, it's a computer game and it's highly addictive. I don't have a deep connection to it, my kids are past that age now.
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14984

            #65
            Re: 2019 Draft Watch

            Originally posted by mjp
            We have no excuse for not selecting Taylor. Most talented player in the draft.
            Crap, we're no chance now. I was hoping we'd get someone like him given we will be taking our NGA kid this year (CCS).

            I still like Kemp but Taheny seems like he'd be on our radar given our supposed interest in Rozee last year. Kickign goals against men at SANFL level.
            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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            • HOSE B ROMERO
              Coaching Staff
              • Mar 2012
              • 2260

              #66
              Re: 2019 Draft Watch

              Originally posted by GVGjr
              Some write-ups on a few Vic Country players that might in the the mix for us courtesy of AFL Draft Central

              #12 Lachie Ash

              With his co-captain Serong, Ash set the tone for a big day in the first term by collecting 12 disposals up to the first break. He basically did as he pleased behind the ball, intercepting, rebounding and the scoreboard soon offered flexibility for him to take on risky but demanding kicks to advantage. He had some smart defensive moments too, spoiling a one on one contest while out of position, before winning the ground ball and earning a free kick. He just took the game on whenever the opportunity presented and while he got a little cute on occasions, the good well and truly outweighed any turnovers. He finished with 29 class disposals to be in the best on ground discussions.

              #16 Brodie Kemp

              Many expected to see Kemp play as a big bodied midfielder during this competition, but with Vic Country lacking tall defensive options, the Geelong Grammar scholar has played defensive 50 in a position that is very familiar. He complemented Ash and Young perfectly, holding his position when required, but coming off his man and impacting the aerial contest when the opportunity presented. While he occasionally used a fist, by the end of the day he was reading the play so well that he was in position to take nearly every mark in his area. His hands and skills were good and he’d also take the game on when space opened up ahead.

              #17 Hayden Young

              Young wasn’t as prominent as against Metro the week before, but the intercepting half back was still very, very good. He got going in the second term with multiple intercept moments, highlighted by a one on one contest against the much bigger Conroy where he used his body to perfection to win the ball and begin an end to end chain that resulted in a goal. He flies for his marks and takes on his kicks, making him arguably the best offensive weapon in this year’s draft despite playing behind the footy.
              My neighbour coaches one of the metro high schools and has seen Young play a couple of times and thinks he could even go top three saying he's got exceptional footy skills and reads the ball well.

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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 66851

                #67
                Re: 2019 Draft Watch

                The next Buddy? NGA product could solve Dogs' forward dilemma

                THE WESTERN Bulldogs will keep a closer eye than most on what eventuates from the AFL's review into the contentious Northern and Next Generation Academies.

                The reason?

                A teenager being inevitably compared – fairly or not – to champion Sydney forward Lance Franklin looms as a potential long-term piece in the club's plans.

                Jamarra Ugle-Hagan, from Warrnambool but boarding at Melbourne's Scotch College and playing in the NAB League for Oakleigh Chargers, is being touted as high as a top-five draft pick in 2020.

                The 194cm Aboriginal forward, an athletic left-footer in Franklin's mould, is in the Bulldogs' NGA, giving them priority draft access to him.

                Ugle-Hagan could be the next Tarryn Thomas, Nick Blakey, Isaac Quaynor, Isaac Heeney or Jack Bowes – all Academy products taken in the first round of the draft.

                His best and his upside are tantalising and there is a lack of promising talls in next year's crop, but his inconsistency from match to match and even within games is part of the reason he is polarising.

                Another complication is the Academy review, which is reaching its conclusion, and the likely tightening of the guidelines.

                If he reaches his potential, Ugle-Hagan is the gift coach Luke Beveridge's forward line is crying out for, although his light frame means he is highly unlikely to make an Aaron Naughton-like instant impact.

                Two Bulldogs who've been tried in attack, Josh Schache and Billy Gowers, have had recent stints in the VFL, while another, Tom Boyd, is more than a month into his premature retirement.

                Josh Schache was dropped after playing the first four games this year.

                As we know, their premiership fairytale in 2016 was followed by consecutive seasons of missing the finals, and they are 14th on the ladder midway through this year.

                Yet Beveridge's playing list – one of the AFL's most intriguing – was remarkably the sixth-youngest entering the 2019 season after enduring significant turnover.

                The midfield is deep, headlined by superstar Marcus Bontempelli and including Jack Macrae, Josh Dunkley, Tom Liberatore, Lachie Hunter, Mitch Wallis, Toby McLean, Patrick Lipinski and rising star Bailey Smith.

                Smith, last year's No.7 draft selection, helps address the criticism of the unit being 'one-paced', with their top pick a year earlier, Ed Richards, also blessed with speed to burn.

                The focus is often on the lack of size at either end, with 182cm Sam Lloyd leading the club's goalkicking, and 187cm Easton Wood sometimes tasked with manning the opposition's No.1 target.

                Naughton was a rookie sensation down back but is now onerously the focal point in attack, while the Dogs recently brought Jackson Trengove in to support former forward Zaine Cordy in defence.

                They also picked up ex-Cat Ryan Gardner, a 197cm swingman, in the mid-season rookie draft in late May, and he instantly broke into the senior side until he was dropped this week.

                Meanwhile, key defenders Lewis Young and Fletcher Roberts – a key part of the flag-winning team three years ago – languish in the VFL.

                "You're not just going to pick a big player because he's big," Beveridge said after last week's win over Carlton.

                "They have to be playing well, they have to be able to cover the ground (and) they have to be ready for the level.

                "We've had lads playing at VFL level who are key-position players who haven't got a game because they just haven't been going well enough."

                The Bulldogs boast substantial salary cap space that can be used to try and fix any positional shortcomings.

                Boyd's departure freed up about $1.5 million across the next two seasons, and missing out on dual All Australian Chad Wingard last year also left cash to splash.

                A mix of footballers out of contract this year or next have been linked to the club, including Jack Martin, Jack Darling, Isaac Smith, Darcy Moore and Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti.

                Darling is expected in the near future to sign a long-term deal to remain at the Eagles.

                There was an unintentionally dramatic list overhaul at the Kennel in the past three off-seasons.

                The changing face of the Dogs' list
                Name

                2016 games

                Where are they now?

                Marcus Adams
                Brisbane

                Shane Biggs
                Retired

                Matthew Boyd
                Retired

                Tom Boyd
                Retired

                Travis Cloke
                Retired

                Luke Dahlhaus
                Geelong

                Joel Hamling
                Fremantle

                Nathan Hrovat
                North Melbourne

                Bob Murphy
                Retired

                Liam Picken
                Retired

                Jack Redpath
                Retired

                Jordan Roughead
                Collingwood

                Clay Smith
                Retired

                Koby Stevens
                Retired

                Jake Stringer
                Essendon

                * Collingwood traded Cloke to the Bulldogs at the end of 2016

                Only 13 premiership Dogs remain, and one (Dale Morris) hasn't played this season because of a knee injury and another (Roberts) has appeared just twice.

                Lin Jong, who was unlucky not to play in that Grand Final because of an untimely injury, is also taking a mental health break from the game.

                This is quite a different side and one very much in transition, with potential pieces of the puzzle such as Ugle-Hagan still about 17 months off joining the cause.

                The 17-year-old flashed his potential in a prolific fortnight this month, slotting nine goals for Scotch College then five more the following weekend for the Chargers.

                One particularly impressive mark that day caught everyone's attention.

                Next year's draft looms as an interesting one for the Bulldogs, who have other draftable Academy talent in Cody Raak (his father, Marc, was born in Zimbabwe) and Ewan MacPherson, son of Steve.

                Raak has returned from a broken arm in the past month, while MacPherson – brother of Gold Coast's Darcy – captained the Vic Metro under-16 team last year.

                There is an industry belief the Dogs could look to follow in North Melbourne's (Thomas) and Sydney's (Blakey) footsteps and use their 2020 first-round selection as a trade chip.

                If Beveridge and co. do ship it off, they would under current rules still be able to match any rival bid for Ugle-Hagan with a combination of later picks.

                However, an impending AFL announcement about the results of its Academy review could thwart any such plan.

                It is understood cases like Raak's were closely scrutinised.

                The 190cm swingman qualifies for the NGA because of his father's birthplace, even though he emigrated to Australia at a young age and carved out a successful local football career in Victoria.

                The rule was designed to encourage clubs to develop more multicultural and Aboriginal talent.

                Critics argue the likes of Ugle-Hagan, Quaynor, Thomas, West Coast's Jarrod Cameron, Demon Toby Bedford and even Raak would make the AFL without the NGA system.

                Where this situation ends up could impact on the Bulldogs as much as any club in the short term.
                FFC: Established 1883

                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #68
                  Re: 2019 Draft Watch

                  Posted in father/son thread earlier by Aza. FYI
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 66851

                    #69
                    Re: 2019 Draft Watch

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    Posted in father/son thread earlier by Aza. FYI
                    argh missed that. Didn't expect in father/Son.
                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #70
                      Re: 2019 Draft Watch

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      argh missed that. Didn't expect in father/Son.
                      Gotta keep you on your toes BAD.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Twodogs
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 27658

                        #71
                        Re: 2019 Draft Watch

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Gotta keep you on your toes BAD.
                        Would standing on his toes mean that BAD can read post in threads that he hasn't seen yet? I must try it.
                        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 44721

                          #72
                          Re: 2019 Draft Watch

                          I liked the NAB U18's games today, talent level might not as deep as the last few years but some players are stepping forward

                          Harry Schoenberg and Will Gould were a couple of the best today for SA

                          Brodie Kemp, Sam Flanders, Cody Weightman, Caleb Serong and Hayden Young were all strong performers for Vic Country in a nail biting win
                          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14348

                            #73
                            Re: 2019 Draft Watch

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I liked the NAB U18's games today, talent level might not as deep as the last few years but some players are stepping forward

                            Harry Schoenberg and Will Gould were a couple of the best today for SA

                            Brodie Kemp, Sam Flanders, Cody Weightman, Caleb Serong and Hayden Young were all strong performers for Vic Country in a nail biting win
                            A Father/son rule, how about two players with the same last name on your list entitles you to an automatic 3rd.
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • The Doctor
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3702

                              #74
                              Re: 2019 Draft Watch

                              July power rankings from AFL draft central are up



                              MJP will love this one!
                              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                              • mjp
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 7382

                                #75
                                Re: 2019 Draft Watch

                                Originally posted by The Doctor
                                July power rankings from AFL draft central are up



                                MJP will love this one!
                                OK. I've clicked the link. Here goes.
                                What should I tell her? She's going to ask.

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