2022 Draft Watch

[Axe Man]

Re: 2022 Draft Watch

See, this is one I don't get.

I understand the outside runner part (and I like that for us) but he butchers the footy by footy for a top 15 pick...I can see the attraction - he's an excellent runner/reader of the game but hitting targets??? Not so much!!

So what you are saying is we might as well just get the cut price version in Oskar Baker instead?

[GVGjr]

Re: 2022 Draft Watch

See, this is one I don't get.

I understand the outside runner part (and I like that for us) but he butchers the footy by footy for a top 15 pick...I can see the attraction - he's an excellent runner/reader of the game but hitting targets??? Not so much!!

There is some faults or opportunities for improvement in most of the players and we've brought in players with kicking skills that are inferior to Hollands.
Hollands isn't my preferred option but surely his scope for improvement is better than Bakers and a few others on our list? We are going to have to accept some flaws in most other players and let the coaching team get to work on them.

[mjp]

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There is some faults or opportunities for improvement in most of the players and we've brought in players with kicking skills that are inferior to Hollands.
Hollands isn't my preferred option but surely his scope for improvement is better than Bakers and a few others on our list? We are going to have to accept some flaws in most other players and let the coaching team get to work on them.

I guess I'm not disagreeing with what you are saying in terms of scope of improvement etc. But for me the role he plays - and I think he's best suited to an outside role - is best played by someone who is an elite runner AND an elite kick. Don't get me wrong, Langdon does an awesome job for Melbourne (and Freo before that) with the running piece alone and if that is the 'vision' for Hollands then I guess I'm in, but at the same time there seems to be a range of players available with skillsets that equally fit our needs that don't have the same short-comings.

It's hard to know how it's all going to fall but my take would be:

Option 1 - Find a way to move up and draft Tsatas
Option 2 - If Humphrey somehow falls, take him.
Option 3 - If Phillipou somehow falls, take him. (I actually prefer Phillipou to Tsatas and Humphrey but am a bit scared off by some stuff I've heard).
Option 4 - Stand pat and select Ed Allan
Option 5 - Take Hollands.
Option 6 - Acknowledge the player we really 'NEED' is Brayden George, take him and wait 12-months.

What do I think we'll do? Stand pat and take Busslinger. My thoughts on selecting intercept players out of u18 competitions are pretty well known and I simply WOULD NOT DO IT.

BUT: I also said please-please-please do not draft that soft, slow half-back flanker from Vic Metro...and Simon Dalrymple picked Marcus Bontempelli and it's all worked out pretty bloody well!

[Mofra]

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Sydney's picks are on the table - for future picks.

Would we do it? Grab one of them and select George or Weddle?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2022 Draft Watch

Sydney's picks are on the table - for future picks.

Would we do it? Grab one of them and select George or Weddle?

I’m listening. What do they want though?

Straight 17 for F1 Bris - Or they want Pick 39 added for example?

[The Doctor]

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Sydney's picks are on the table - for future picks.

Would we do it? Grab one of them and select George or Weddle?

Think it has to be a big chance. Sneaks us in ahead of GWS.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2022 Draft Watch

After shuffling?

Picks 16 & 19

Picks 23, 40 & F1 (Bris)

Picks: 12, 16 & 19


Something for a swap of Pick 14 (16) & 21 (23). Would a F2 cover them enough sliding them from 16 to 23? Is upgrading say a Hotton into George worth effectively two second rounders on the kid?

Fun times!

[GVGjr]

Re: 2022 Draft Watch

Sydney's picks are on the table - for future picks.

Would we do it? Grab one of them and select George or Weddle?

A future first round pick for their pick 17 this year seems OK to me.
That would give us 11, 17 and 21?

We would have to move on 39 for a F3.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2022 Draft Watch

Some projections for this draft

Pick 11 - In the mix will be Jedd Busslinger, Ed Allan and Oliver Hollands with an outside chance a highly rated player slides down the order and changes our thinking. I think Busslinger is the player we will pick.

Pick 21 - In the mix will be Josh Weddle, Brayden George and Olli Hotton with other chances likely to include Charlie Clarke, Jacob Kostanty, Joe Richards, Coby Burgiel and maybe Lewis Hayes if we don't get Busslinger. It will be out of George, Hotton or Clarke. Clarke is the strong mail.

Pick 39 - This is where it becomes a lot harder to pick which players in the mix but maybe Coby Burgiel, Ethan Phillips, James Van Es, Harvey Gallagher and Bailey MacDonald.

If it was my selections and allowing for what I think might happen I'd go with:
11 - Ed Allan
21 - Olli Hotton
39 - Harvey Gallagher

Allan (194cm) could play a bit of senior football next season and his speed, size and versatility will appeal. He has plenty of upside despite missing a lot of footy this season.

Hotton (181cm) seems to be under rated mainly based on him starting the season as a small forward before really starting to perform in the midfield. His game against SA is where he really stood out. He has plenty of speed and athleticism plus he is a very good kick and we need players who can kick the ball accurately.

Gallagher (179cm) just had a very good season and has played as a forward where he was capable of kicking multiple goals in a couple of games but performed even better as a defender where his accurate kicking was a feature. A real hard working and smart defender who could be quickly groomed as a replacement for Taylor Duryea.

As a summary - That's 3 very versatile and athletic players and who I would regard as well above average with their kicking skills.

I'd really like to have selected Brayden George but assuming we don't get any pick swaps done it's hard to see us taking that chance with pick 11 but he could very well be worth it and he shouldn't be there at 21. Josh Weddle would be a terrific pick up but it's hard to see us taking him at 11 and he is very likely to be gone before 21.

My top 10 is:
1 - Ashcroft
2 - Cadman
3 - Wardlaw
4 - Phillipou
5 - Tsatas
6 - Humphrey
7 - Ginbey
8 - Clark
9 - George
10 - Sheezel

I can't understand why North aren't taking Phillipou at 4.

[Dogs 24/7]

Re: 2022 Draft Watch

Thanks for the summary. Thats a bit of a drop for Sheezel. I would have liked a key position defender but we might only be making up the numbers if its the 3 rd pick we were going to use on getting one.

[The Doctor]

Re: 2022 Draft Watch

I'd love to see an outcome that delivers Weddle, George and one of Clarke, Jones or Barnett. Doubt we would choose a ruckman however.

[The Doctor]

Re: 2022 Draft Watch

10 - Sheezel

I can't understand why North aren't taking Phillipou at 4.

I think Sheezel is top 3

I can't understand why Norf aren't taking Cadman with their original 1st pick

[azabob]

Re: 2022 Draft Watch

Some projections for this draft



I can't understand why North aren't taking Phillipou at 4.

Have they been put off by the whole Jason Horne Francis side show?

[azabob]

Re: 2022 Draft Watch

Mock draft from the Mongrel Punt (Part one)

They have us selecting

Pick 12 (Western Bulldogs) – Ed Allan

Another team that is placed in an interesting position, the Dogs should look at either small forwards or genuine wing options. But there’s a player available here that has got serious potential to be anything in this league, and that is Ed Allan. Some have him pushing as a top 10 selection, and given his exceptional speed and athleticism, as well as the height of 194cm, Allan is a player that can a multitude of roles – he’s spent time on the wing, on the inside and with his ability to use the ball by foot, he could spend time in defence as well. A perfect pick for a side that preaches versatility.

Pick 23 (Western Bulldogs) – Harry Barnett

Another tough pick here for the Dogs as there is still plenty of good talent available. Whilst they’ve got Tim English as their primary ruck, ruck stocks currently aren’t great at the Dogs, so I’d love to see them take the punt on the best ruckman in this year’s draft class in Harry Barnett here. There are some similarities to English as both have great follow-up work and can provide in separate areas of the ground, but Barnett’s ruck craft you’d say is a bit more established than English was at the same level. Would allow English to play a little more freely around the ground once Barnett hits his prime.

https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-drafts-and-trades/2022/11/26/the-docs-2022-afl-mock-draft/

[GVGjr]

Re: 2022 Draft Watch

Have they been put off by the whole Jason Horne Francis side show?

Maybe but they shouldn't be.