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  • Bulldogs201616
    Rookie List
    • Dec 2024
    • 176

    #286
    Originally posted by Axe Man
    West Coast weighing up shock draft play for Harry Dean

    Harry Dean is the best key defender in this year’s draft class, but the Blues are prepared for a fight to get their hands on the father-son prospect, as one rival club weighs up a bombshell move.

    Carlton is prepared for a bid on father-son prospect Harry Dean to come as early as pick two after an eye-catching season from the emerging key defender.

    It is understood West Coast – which holds the first two picks in next month’s national draft – is a big fan of Dean and could make an earlier-than-expected play on the Murray Bushrangers product.

    Dean has been rated a top-five prospect by some recruiters since starring for Vic Country during the under-18 national championships mid-year, where he showcased exceptional one-on-one traits and intercept ability.

    Measuring 194cm, he is clearly the best key defender in the draft pool, with the backline being an area of the ground that the Eagles would love to strengthen.

    While rival clubs expect West Coast to land midfielder-forward Willem Duursma and ruck-forward Cooper Duff-Tytler with their first two selections, an early bid on Dean would have a significant impact on Carlton’s draft hand.

    The Blues would require 2,233 draft points to match a bid on Dean at pick two, which would swallow up their current pick 9 and push their pick 11 well into the second round of the draft.

    If Dean doesn’t receive a bid from the Eagles, he is not expected to get past Richmond (picks three and four) and Essendon (picks five and six) before having his name read.

    However, a bid at pick 5 would only cost Carlton 1,616 draft points – swallowing pick 9 and pushing pick 11 back only a few spots.

    Carlton is more bullish on this year’s draft than some other clubs, though, and believes it can find a quality player to complement its list regardless of how far pick 11 slides back.

    In addition to Dean, the Blues are planning to make three other selections in the national draft, with Next Generation Academy prospect Jack Ison being another player firmly in their sights.

    Some clubs have shied away from placing early bids on high-end draft talents in recent years, with Brisbane father-son Levi Ashcroft not receiving a bid until pick 5 last year and Collingwood father-son Nick Daicos famously slipping to pick 4 before having his name read out in 2021.

    But West Coast could kick off the bidding this year, with Richmond also having no qualms about bidding on Northern Academy-linked players including Zeke Uwland and Dylan Patterson (both Gold Coast) and potentially even Daniel Annable (Brisbane Lions) in a highly-compromised top-end of the draft.

    Dean – the son of two-time Blues premiership player Peter – met with seven clubs including Carlton at the national draft combine earlier this month and told this masthead he had long dreamed of a move to Princes Park.

    “I’d like to play anywhere in football – to play at any club – but to pull on the Navy Blue would be pretty special for not just dad but also my family as well,” he said.

    The national draft will be held on November 19 and 20.
    Looks like that bid is coming well before I thought. Maybe this is a ploy to force Carlton into trading them two firsts.

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    • Bulldogs201616
      Rookie List
      • Dec 2024
      • 176

      #287
      Originally posted by Willow18
      Dylan Alexander’s top 20
      1. Willem Duursma - utility
      2. Sullivan Robey - mid/fwd
      3. Zeke Uwland - def/mid (Suns)
      4. Sam Grlj - speedy mid
      5. Cooper Duff-Tytler - ruck
      6. Dyson Sharp - mid (SA)
      7. Dylan Patterson - mid/fwd (Suns)
      8. Daniel Annable - mid (Lions)
      9. Xavier Taylor - key def
      10. Lachy Dovaston - small fwd
      11. Aidan Schubert - ruck/fwd (SA)
      12. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves - fwd
      13. Samuel Cumming - mid (SA)
      14. Mitch Marsh - fwd (SA)
      15. Harry Dean - key back (Blues)
      16. Jevan Phillipou - mid/fwd (SA)
      17. Jacob Farrow - half back/mid (WA)
      18. Oliver Greeves - mid
      19. Oskar Taylor - half back
      20. Josh Lindsay - rebound def
      Twomey’s update should be out tomorrow, I would assume the exact same top 20 just in a different order.
      If Lindsay falls to our pick we have to take him.

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      • Willow18
        Rookie List
        • Jan 2025
        • 174

        #288
        Originally posted by Bulldogs201616

        Looks like that bid is coming well before I thought. Maybe this is a ploy to force Carlton into trading them two firsts.
        Will be hilarious when Eagles bid for Dean at 2, effectively screwing the mighty Carlton, only for every other club to then let Annable fall to pick 10/11 so as to give the plucky Lions an easy pick up

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        • Willow18
          Rookie List
          • Jan 2025
          • 174

          #289
          Originally posted by Bulldogs201616

          If Lindsay falls to our pick we have to take him.
          I’d be comfortable leaving it in the hands of our recruiting team from here, if they went O. Taylor over Lindsay on draft night, I’d accept it as the right choice

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          • Uninformed
            Draftee
            • Jan 2023
            • 966

            #290
            Originally posted by Bulldogs201616

            If Lindsay falls to our pick we have to take him.
            Do have any good write ups on Lindsay to give me an idea of what he is like?

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            • Bulldogs201616
              Rookie List
              • Dec 2024
              • 176

              #291
              Originally posted by Uninformed

              Do have any good write ups on Lindsay to give me an idea of what he is like?
              This is from central rookie.

              “A lethal left-footer whose skills and decision making exceed all-comers in this year’s draft crop.” – Michael Alvaro
              Josh Lindsay has put together a stellar junior resume, establishing himself as a big game player and one with the utmost class. He put his name on the map with best on ground performances in last year’s National Under 17 Futures match, and the AFL Academy’s second game this year.

              The 18-year-old went on to nail his spot at half-back in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year and Under 18 All-Australian side. He was tested at elevated levels but his ball use held him in good stead, while testing out his midfield craft increasingly with the Falcons and Geelong Grammar.

              Lindsay considers himself somewhat of a “footy nuffy” and grew up supporting North Melbourne. He models his game on the likes of Sydney star Errol Gulden, for his inside-outside balance, and Collingwood champion Scott Pendlebury, for his professionalism and longevity.







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              • Bulldogs201616
                Rookie List
                • Dec 2024
                • 176

                #292
                Originally posted by Uninformed

                Do have any good write ups on Lindsay to give me an idea of what he is like?
                Also if you go on YouTube there is a YouTuber by the name of footy stuff who shows all there highlights from most games.

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                • Bulldogs201616
                  Rookie List
                  • Dec 2024
                  • 176

                  #293
                  Originally posted by Willow18

                  I’d be comfortable leaving it in the hands of our recruiting team from here, if they went O. Taylor over Lindsay on draft night, I’d accept it as the right choice
                  Yeah both would be good pick ups. Both fit a need at half back to help Dale out.

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                  • Uninformed
                    Draftee
                    • Jan 2023
                    • 966

                    #294
                    Originally posted by Bulldogs201616

                    This is from central rookie.

                    “A lethal left-footer whose skills and decision making exceed all-comers in this year’s draft crop.” – Michael Alvaro
                    Josh Lindsay has put together a stellar junior resume, establishing himself as a big game player and one with the utmost class. He put his name on the map with best on ground performances in last year’s National Under 17 Futures match, and the AFL Academy’s second game this year.

                    The 18-year-old went on to nail his spot at half-back in the Coates Talent League Team of the Year and Under 18 All-Australian side. He was tested at elevated levels but his ball use held him in good stead, while testing out his midfield craft increasingly with the Falcons and Geelong Grammar.

                    Lindsay considers himself somewhat of a “footy nuffy” and grew up supporting North Melbourne. He models his game on the likes of Sydney star Errol Gulden, for his inside-outside balance, and Collingwood champion Scott Pendlebury, for his professionalism and longevity.






                    Thanks for that and the YouTube tip. The first sentence had me sold immediately. I have thought for a long time that a Gulden type would be perfect for us. The difference he makes for Sydney is extraordinary. Absolute match winner. If Lindsay gets somewhere near that he would help us enormously. I guess the recruiting skill is to judge whether he could be that good at AFL level.

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                    • Willow18
                      Rookie List
                      • Jan 2025
                      • 174

                      #295
                      Cal Twomey’s top 20
                      1. Willem Duursma - utility
                      2. Zeke Uwland - def/mid (Suns)
                      3. Cooper Duff-Tytler - ruck
                      4. Dylan Patterson - mid/fwd (Suns)
                      5. Daniel Annable - mid (Lions)
                      6. Sullivan Robey - mid/fwd
                      7. Xavier Taylor - key def
                      8. Harry Dean - key back (Blues)
                      9. Dyson Sharp - mid (SA)
                      10. Samuel Cumming - mid (SA)
                      11. Aidan Schubert - ruck/fwd (SA)
                      12. Sam Grlj - speedy mid
                      13. Jacob Farrow - half back/mid (WA)
                      14. Josh Lindsay - rebound def
                      15. Jevan Phillipou - mid/fwd (SA)
                      16. Oliver Greeves - mid
                      17. Mitch Marsh - fwd (SA)
                      18. Lachy Dovaston - small fwd
                      19. Oskar Taylor - half back
                      20. Noah Hibbins-Hargreaves - fwd

                      as predicted, same top 20 as Dylan Alexander, Grlj, Lindsay & Dovaston the biggest differences between the two.

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                      • doggies ftw
                        Draftee
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 997

                        #296
                        Originally posted by Uninformed

                        Thanks for that and the YouTube tip. The first sentence had me sold immediately. I have thought for a long time that a Gulden type would be perfect for us. The difference he makes for Sydney is extraordinary. Absolute match winner. If Lindsay gets somewhere near that he would help us enormously. I guess the recruiting skill is to judge whether he could be that good at AFL level.
                        His contested possession rate is abysmal though and there’s a pretty longstanding trend of juniors with such low contested possession rates being massive draft busts, ie your Toumpass & Aish’s

                        Id assume that’s what recruiters knocks are him, obviously everyone has to be assessed on their own merits but if you’re not winning the ball for yourself at junior level it doesn’t get any easier I guess, no matter how good you are on the outside

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                        • Critter
                          Draftee
                          • Jan 2023
                          • 505

                          #297
                          Paraphrasing SEN just now.

                          Sam Edmund to Chad Cornes , “Where do you reckon Butters goes?”
                          Chad Cornes, “He absolutely loves the Bulldogs. Absolutely loves them.”

                          Chad is fairly sure.

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                          • NAUGHTY100
                            Draftee
                            • Dec 2024
                            • 620

                            #298
                            Originally posted by Critter
                            Paraphrasing SEN just now.

                            Sam Edmund to Chad Cornes , “Where do you reckon Butters goes?”
                            Chad Cornes, “He absolutely loves the Bulldogs. Absolutely loves them.”

                            Chad is fairly sure.
                            As for Butters , and him comming to us , there should be a Fingers crossed emoji , because iv got everything crossed that Butters love for us comes to frooition .

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                            • Jasper
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 1327

                              #299
                              Originally posted by Uninformed
                              Appears to be plenty of talent around our pick?
                              It seems so. Despite some otherwise negative comments on the depth of the draft it's even enough.
                              I keep an eye ot for Tom Burton and he rarely gets a mention in top 40 drafts.
                              If he is missing out then it's an even draft
                              Doing my best to use emojis more frequently :o

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                              • Jasper
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 1327

                                #300
                                Originally posted by doggies ftw

                                His contested possession rate is abysmal though and there’s a pretty longstanding trend of juniors with such low contested possession rates being massive draft busts, ie your Toumpass & Aish’s

                                Id assume that’s what recruiters knocks are him, obviously everyone has to be assessed on their own merits but if you’re not winning the ball for yourself at junior level it doesn’t get any easier I guess, no matter how good you are on the outside
                                Great summary, I might have a look at Lindsay over the weekend.
                                Doing my best to use emojis more frequently :o

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