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  • Remi Moses
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 14785

    Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

    Got a god awful feeling we'll trade Grant for pick 28 and give both 22 and 28 to that lot.

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    • Bornadog
      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
      • Jan 2007
      • 66746

      Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

      Originally posted by Remi Moses
      Got a god awful feeling we'll trade Grant for pick 28 and give both 22 and 28 to that lot.
      If that happens I will lose total respect for the list manager and the coach
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      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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      • chef
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 14624

        Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

        Maybe we want a 2nd round pick to use on someone like Thorpe?
        The curse is dead.

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        • chef
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 14624

          Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

          Originally posted by bornadog
          If that happens I will lose total respect for the list manager and the coach
          Seems a bit extreme to me.
          The curse is dead.

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          • chef
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 14624

            Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
            LOL have we dodged a bullet here Chef? Made me giggle.
            I think we have.
            The curse is dead.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 44666

              Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

              Originally posted by bornadog
              If that happens I will lose total respect for the list manager and the coach
              I'm not sure the credibility of the list manager and the coach should be questioned based on a bit of speculation. When there is a bit more of a basis to it then fine but currently it's premature to say the least.
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              • Topdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7471

                Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

                well he did say "If that happens" to be fair.

                I think Grant is an important part of our team but if the coach disagrees so be it.

                How about instead of that we offer Grant and pick 22 for Doherty and Brisbanes 2nd round pick (i think 24) or so. And then tell Essendon they took too long for the Crameri deal and we'll get him through PSD

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

                  28 would be pissing away Grant. I would be exceptionally disappointed IF TRUE.

                  So no Docherty, no Grant and probably pick 30 after FA's. We lose.
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • G-Mo77
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9876

                    Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

                    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                    28 would be pissing away Grant. I would be exceptionally disappointed IF TRUE.

                    So no Docherty, no Grant and probably pick 30 after FA's. We lose.
                    Not if he didn't want to sign with us for next year and beyond. #28 would be good value if that were the case.

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                    • KT31
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 5454

                      Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

                      Originally posted by G-Mo77
                      Not if he didn't want to sign with us for next year and beyond. #28 would be good value if that were the case.
                      Isn't that the sticking point he wants more than next year and he wants the beyond, we are only offering next year.
                      Not saying we should, but If we offered him a three year deal I imagine he would jump at it.
                      It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

                        Originally posted by G-Mo77
                        Not if he didn't want to sign with us for next year and beyond. #28 would be good value if that were the case.
                        What would be worse, offering Grant a second year or getting pick 30.

                        Everyone has a different opinion, but I'm not excited about draft prospects from around the 23-25 pick range. 30 just isn't enough compo for the sake of offering a second year on performance or outright.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • KT31
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 5454

                          Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          What would be worse, offering Grant a second year or getting pick 30.

                          Everyone has a different opinion, but I'm not excited about draft prospects from around the 23-25 pick range. 30 just isn't enough compo for the sake of offering a second year on performance or outright.
                          Agree the percentages of picking up a player with Grant's potential is very slim once you get into the second round.
                          BMac might have a inkling he is about to drop the ball again and think his value is as good as it is ever going to be.
                          It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                          • ledge
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14315

                            Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

                            Grant was offered 1 year and a 2nd depending on games played if he thinks he is good enough to get a game then he shouldn't be worried about 2nd year it will come automatically
                            Bring back the biff

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                            • G-Mo77
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9876

                              Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

                              Originally posted by KT31
                              Isn't that the sticking point he wants more than next year and he wants the beyond, we are only offering next year.
                              Not saying we should, but If we offered him a three year deal I imagine he would jump at it.
                              Not sure, a lot of speculation but from my understanding it's 1 year with a 2nd optional which is performance based. If it were me I'd give him the 2nd year regardless.

                              If he's balking at the contract we offered and we're not prepared to give him another year pick #28 is great value for Grant which was my point. We're all saying Crameri is only worth pick #22 but Grant is in the exact same position right now and you've got people asking for more?

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                              • Hotdog60
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 5909

                                Re: Recruiting Rumour File 2013

                                Originally posted by ledge
                                Grant was offered 1 year and a 2nd depending on games played if he thinks he is good enough to get a game then he shouldn't be worried about 2nd year it will come automatically
                                If you are confident in your playing ability you shouldn't have a problem with the deal. If I was Grant I would be after some injury insurance in that deal but if he can hold his place in the seniors the extra years will be added.
                                Don't piss off old people
                                The older we get the less "LIFE IN PRISON" is a deterrent...

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