2018 Tour of South Africa

[Twodogs]

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Ah well, Smith & Warner and perhaps The Marshes, Starc & Cummins can become full time world T20 comp multi-millionaires for the next decade.

Silver lining...

Also, why not just stick to mints like the poms?

Different type of ball I think. They use Dukes over there and the kookaburra doesn't seem to react the same to the mints the English use. That's why they can't get it to reverse over here.

[Greystache]

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Warner and smith have been stood down and Paine has taken over as captain as from tonight.

A strong stand. Much better than the disgraceful England team who allowed Mike Atherton to remain captain after a similar incident.

[Greystache]

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You can't but laugh at the fact that the captain of the team we're playing has been done for ball tampering twice and is still captain. I guess there's different standards for some.

[ledge]

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Ah well, Smith & Warner and perhaps The Marshes, Starc & Cummins can become full time world T20 comp multi-millionaires for the next decade.

Silver lining...

Also, why not just stick to mints like the poms?

We kicked out Gayle for acomment to a reporter. You think 20/20 cricket comps want to offer cheats contracts ? Not good for the brand of the league or sponsors.

[GVGjr]

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You can't but laugh at the fact that the captain of the team we're playing has been done for ball tampering twice and is still captain. I guess there's different standards for some.

That point is not lost on me (Plus didn't AB DeV have something in his gloves when he was a wicket keeper?) but it appears Smith has orchestrated this with other players and that must account for something a bit more. This isn't a bowler picking the seam type of tampering

[azabob]

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Smith and Warner are only stood down for this test though?

[ledge]

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Smith and Warner are only stood down for this test though?

If I heard correctly and the next one.

[Greystache]

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That point is not lost on me (Plus didn't AB DeV have something in his gloves when he was a wicket keeper?) but it appears Smith has orchestrated this with other players and that must account for something a bit more. This isn't a bowler picking the seam type of tampering

AB was captain in 2013 when his team were accused again in a ODI but he denied they did it and apparently that was enough for everyone to move on.

Neither was Du Plesis' when he scratched the ball up on a zip on his pants. They must have been custom mades to have a zipper because I've never seen a pair of cricket pants with a zipper before. Again they denied it was deliberate and he was penalised and everyone was happy to forget it. Similar when he used a mint on the ball here last tour, they denied it, he was penalised and everyone moved on. We missed a clear trick by owning up it seems. Not that the Australian media wouldn't have hung our team anyway.

[Bornadog]

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Smith and Warner are only stood down for this test though?

Until CA complete their findings, then a decision will be made

[Remi Moses]

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Malcolm Turnball has come out in a press conference and contacted the cricket board on the point of representing the country and what it means.
He is ropable.
This is going to get ugly for those involved.

He’s calling for the sacking of Michael Chieka immediately. Go Team

[Sedat]

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Ball tampering has been going on since the pre-war era with Brylcreem and mints. Likewise picking at the quarter seam. But when it starts involving anything with foreign objects (bottle tops, sandpaper, etc..) being brought onto the field to scuff up the ball that has never been acceptable. And doubly so when it has been systematically orchestrated from the captain/coach down.

No sympathy whatsoever for Smith or anyone else involved.

[GVGjr]

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Apparently Renshaw and Burns have been put on notice. The Bulls could be without them for the balance of the Shield final.

[Bornadog]

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Nathan Lyon gets his 300th wicket

[Twodogs]

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AB was captain in 2013 when his team were accused again in a ODI but he denied they did it and apparently that was enough for everyone to move on.

Neither was Du Plesis' when he scratched the ball up on a zip on his pants. They must have been custom mades to have a zipper because I've never seen a pair of cricket pants with a zipper before. Again they denied it was deliberate and he was penalised and everyone was happy to forget it. Similar when he used a mint on the ball here last tour, they denied it, he was penalised and everyone moved on. We missed a clear trick by owning up it seems. Not that the Australian media wouldn't have hung our team anyway.

Well said Stache, Australia are held to different standards. Same as when Symonds was called a monkey and put up with monkey noises by the Indian team. Somehow that wasn't racist and nobody was ever punished for it. Not to mention the fact Rabada is playing in this game, if he was Australian and appealed then the penalty would have been doubled.

Nobody is asking for Smith to be let off but we might want to start punishing other teams for their transgressions too.

[Twodogs]

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Smith given a one match sanction and fined 100% of match fee, Bancroft 3 demerit points, fined 75% of match fee.