NFL Discussion

[Greystache]

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Well it's been a pretty funny season so far.
There's no really obvious best team in the NFC or AFC, although the Steelers, Ravens, Jets and Pats all look pretty good so far in the AFC. I honestly couldn't pick a best couple of teams from the NFC. The Cowboys have been surprisingly bad, killing themselves with penalties and poor O-Line work. Questions abound about Romo too and despite what Jerry Jones says surely Wade Phillips isn't far away from unemployment.
Biggest surprises are the Chiefs who started 3-0 before dropping a couple, the Rams who are somehow 3-3 despite blowing a game to the Lions by 38 points, and the Broncos who despite their record could, I honestly think, win the division if they can find someone to run the ball. Orton has been surprisingly good.
Chargers are struggling with injuries. The Bengals are not a patch on last season and Carson Palmer seems to have jumped the shark and honestly could have thrown 30 int's.

Was really disappointed with the Ravens against the Pats last week. Looked to have the game comfortably under control with a 10 point lead in the last quarter and then the D let the Patriots O get going and the Baltimore offense went incredibly conservative when they'd moved the ball pretty well in the first 3 quarters.
Watched the Colts-Redskins last week too and seriosuly was amazed that if the Skins DB's could have held onto the ball, manning would have thrown 3 or 4 int's in the first half. The Colts are winning but don't look the team they have been.
The Redskins are improved but don't look quite good enough to be a playoff team.

Looking forward to Minnesota vs Green Bay next week.

I'm heading off to New York next week for 3 weeks, I've got tickets to the Jets vs Green Bay on Halloween, can't wait. Any players I should keep an eye out for specifically?

[Jasper]

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I'm heading off to New York next week for 3 weeks, I've got tickets to the Jets vs Green Bay on Halloween, can't wait. Any players I should keep an eye out for specifically?

Green Bay - QB Aaron Rodgers is amongst the Top 4 at that position. Greg Jennings is his most electric receiver. Clay Matthews is a dynamic young defensive player.

Jets - Pretty Boy QB Sanchez aka the Sanchise has been playing well. Future Hall of Famer RB Ladainian Tomlinson has been to the fountain of youth in the off-season and is firing. They also have some stars on defense and the most amusing coach in the NFL, Rex Ryan. Big loud mouth but his players are backing him at at this stage of the season.

I would expect Jets to win comfortably as GB has a number of players out injured at the moment, but certainly will be a spectacle at the new Stadium

[mjp]

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Green Bay - QB Aaron Rodgers is amongst the Top 4 at that position.

Top 4?

Brees.
Manning.
Brady
Roethlisberger.
...
Surely those guys are the clear top 4?

Then there are the likes of Rodgers, Flacco, Ryan, McNabb etc etc.

Rodgers LOOKS exciting and racks up some numbers, but he hasn't actually won anything yet.

[Greystache]

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Green Bay - QB Aaron Rodgers is amongst the Top 4 at that position. Greg Jennings is his most electric receiver. Clay Matthews is a dynamic young defensive player.

Jets - Pretty Boy QB Sanchez aka the Sanchise has been playing well. Future Hall of Famer RB Ladainian Tomlinson has been to the fountain of youth in the off-season and is firing. They also have some stars on defense and the most amusing coach in the NFL, Rex Ryan. Big loud mouth but his players are backing him at at this stage of the season.

I would expect Jets to win comfortably as GB has a number of players out injured at the moment, but certainly will be a spectacle at the new Stadium

Thanks for that, I'll keep an eye on them.

[The Underdog]

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Surely the Eagles have dibs on this after crushing the Falcons?

Probably, I'm just not convinced they are particularly good. Admittedly I've seen their 2 losses so that doesn't leave a good impression and they only squeaked past the Lions and 49ers. I mean are they that much better than the Giants or Redskins? I guess time will tell.

[The Underdog]

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I'm heading off to New York next week for 3 weeks, I've got tickets to the Jets vs Green Bay on Halloween, can't wait. Any players I should keep an eye out for specifically?

Can't argue too much with Captain Groenewagon's picks, particularly Clay Matthews if he's playing. He's a beast.
Packers have no running game so the pressure is on Rodger's to win with his arm

Jets Defense is worth watching as a whole, although the pass defense has struggled with Revis not at full fitness. Cromartie has stepped up pretty well though.
Keep an eye on Cromartie, he may have impregnated a cheer leader by half time

Oh and can I add how incredibly jealous I am? Have fun.

[Jasper]

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Top 4?

Brees.
Manning.
Brady
Roethlisberger.
...
Surely those guys are the clear top 4?

Then there are the likes of Rodgers, Flacco, Ryan, McNabb etc etc.

Rodgers LOOKS exciting and racks up some numbers, but he hasn't actually won anything yet.

I may be slightly biased to Rodgers due to his fantasy football numbers.
Individually he is certainly better than Big Ben, but obviously Ben's Superbowls wins put his career ahead of Rodgers.
Also he has only played one game this season which drops his current rank IMHO.

Put Rodgers in Pittsburgh, they're still the Superbowl favourites.
And the ladies in town can also sleep easier...........

[hujsh]

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Chargers are struggling with injuries. The Bengals are not a patch on last season and Carson Palmer seems to have jumped the shark and honestly could have thrown 30 int's.

He's writing ridiculous story lines to the detriment of the show?

[Greystache]

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Can't argue too much with Captain Groenewagon's picks, particularly Clay Matthews if he's playing. He's a beast.
Packers have no running game so the pressure is on Rodger's to win with his arm

Jets Defense is worth watching as a whole, although the pass defense has struggled with Revis not at full fitness. Cromartie has stepped up pretty well though.
Keep an eye on Cromartie, he may have impregnated a cheer leader by half time

Oh and can I add how incredibly jealous I am? Have fun.

Thanks Underdog,

I'll keep an eye on Cromartie, I like the cut of his jib!

[mjp]

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I may be slightly biased to Rodgers due to his fantasy football numbers.
Individually he is certainly better than Big Ben, but obviously Ben's Superbowls wins put his career ahead of Rodgers.
Also he has only played one game this season which drops his current rank IMHO.

Ben can (and does) do things that no other qb can. He extends plays when protection breaks down (in Pittsburgh, pretty darn often) and is almost impossible for defenders to bring down. Rodgers has lost two o-lineman and basically collapsed under the pressure.

If you tried to tell me that Rivers was better than Ben as an individual, I might have bought it...might. But then you think back to the last drive in the 2009 superbowl and ask yourself who would have won the game if Rogers or Rivers (or anyone else - including Brees/Brady/Manning) was in charge and that much pressure was coming? They would have been brought down and the Cardinals would have won the game.

Roethisberger is a peanut off the field - no doubt. But he is a very, very good player who has proved it in big games. Rodgers? Not so much. Hits his targets when things are going well, but hasn't got the greatest record in big road games/playoff games.

[mjp]

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Thanks Underdog,

I'll keep an eye on Cromartie, I like the cut of his jib!

And here is the legendary clip of Cromartie trying to remember the names of all his kids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5qzQ2HBh0s

[The Underdog]

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He's writing ridiculous story lines to the detriment of the show?

While that was the original context for the saying, it has evolved to basically describe the point where something / someone is in decline.

One definition from Urban Dictionary is "The precise moment when you know a program, band, actor, politician, or other public figure has taken a turn for the worse, gone downhill, become irreversibly bad, is unredeemable, etc.; the moment you realize decay has set in"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jump%20the%20shark

If you've seen Palmer play this year then it's pretty obvious the Bengals need to draft a new QB next year or at least come up with a back up who isn't Carson's brother.

[Greystache]

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Went to the game yesterday, was a fairly lackluster affair it's fair to say. Jets went scoreless and only once were in position to score when the kicker missed a FG from about 35. Both defences were solid, Rogers was ok, but Sanchez was horrible. He's getting slaughtered over here. I've got a couple of photos to post when I get a chance.

[The Underdog]

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Went to the game yesterday, was a fairly lackluster affair it's fair to say. Jets went scoreless and only once were in position to score when the kicker missed a FG from about 35. Both defences were solid, Rogers was ok, but Sanchez was horrible. He's getting slaughtered over here. I've got a couple of photos to post when I get a chance.

You really had terrible luck getting a game that poor, especially between 2 teams that have pretty high aspirations.
Hope you had a good time at least. How's the New Meadowlands stadium?

[LostDoggy]

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Yeh, that was a shocking game to watch, atleast you saw a massive fake punt and Clay getting another sack.

Strange day today, only 3 weeks after getting traded, in what many thought was a steal of a trade, Randy Moss is cut from the Vikings. Has to clear waivers but he is even a change to come back to the Pats. Childress is an absolute fool of a coach, and apparently this move lost him the support of the players. I would be very surprised if he lasts 20 minutes after their final game (their last coach found out about his firing through the owner's post game press conference to the media)