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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 67288

    #61
    Re: MRP thread 2017

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    The player wasn't concussed and played the game out. That's the justification the MRP needs to grade it as low, and not suspend him.

    In the real world, it's to me a 2-3 week type of strike. But I can see this as a fine by this MRP.
    Blood coming from his mouth, surely that is not low impact
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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #62
      Re: MRP thread 2017

      Originally posted by bornadog
      Blood coming from his mouth, surely that is not low impact
      Surely the evidence of an umpire being 2m from a head butt the week before would be considered over grainy footage.

      I have no faith in the MRP.
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      • comrade
        Hall of Fame
        • Jun 2008
        • 18093

        #63
        Re: MRP thread 2017

        Originally posted by aker39
        It will be careless and to the head. It will then come down to whether the impact is low or medium.

        Low - Gets a fine
        Medium - Gets 2 weeks down to 1.
        Guess it comes down to careless or intentional. A closed fist, late action, strike into the mouth when the player took a chest mark.
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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          #64
          Re: MRP thread 2017

          Originally posted by aker39
          Greene can accept 2 weeks and Nankervis 1
          Hopefully Nankervis takes it.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 67288

            #65
            Re: MRP thread 2017

            Shane Mumford cleared contact TLiberatore. Mumford did not lift or rotate opponent in the tackle and the tackle consisted of one action.
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            • Ozza
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Mar 2008
              • 6402

              #66
              Re: MRP thread 2017

              Happy with the MRP decisions.

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              • chef
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 14696

                #67
                Re: MRP thread 2017

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Shane Mumford cleared contact TLiberatore. Mumford did not lift or rotate opponent in the tackle and the tackle consisted of one action.
                Fair enough too.
                The curse is dead.

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                • Axe Man
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 11305

                  #68
                  Re: MRP thread 2017

                  Match Review Panel full statement: round six

                  Toby Greene, GWS Giants, has been charged with striking Caleb Daniel, Western Bulldogs, during the third quarter of the Round Six match between the GWS Giants and the Western Bulldogs, played at UNSW Canberra Oval on Friday April 28, 2017.

                  In summary, he can accept a two-match sanction with an early plea.

                  Based on the available video evidence and a medical report from the Western Bulldogs Football Club, the incident was assessed as intentional conduct with medium impact to the head. The incident was classified as a three-match sanction. The player has no applicable record which impacts the penalty. An early plea enables the player to accept a two-match sanction.


                  Contact between the GWS Giants' Jacob Hopper and the Western Bulldogs' Bailey Dale from the third quarter of Friday's match was assessed. The panel said the ball was loose with Hopper and Dale coming to the contest. Hopper comes from Dale's left side and has his arms in front of him, looking towards the ball, when he makes contact to his opponent as Dale is bending down. Hopper also makes contact with the ball with his feet as he is moving towards the contest with a free kick paid to Dale for the contact. It was the view of the panel that Hopper was contesting the ball and no further action was required.


                  Contact between the GWS Giants' Shane Mumford and the Western Bulldogs' Tom Liberatore from the fourth quarter of Friday's match was assessed. The ball was bounced in the centre for a ruck contest and Liberatore took possession of the ball. The Bulldogs' player was immediately tackled by Mumford who took him to ground. Mumford did not lift or rotate his opponent in the tackle and the tackle consisted of one action. It was the view of the panel the tackle was not unreasonable in the circumstance and no further action was taken.

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                  • Twodogs
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 27664

                    #69
                    Re: MRP thread 2017

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Shane Mumford cleared contact TLiberatore. Mumford did not lift or rotate opponent in the tackle and the tackle consisted of one action.
                    So from the precedent of the last few weeks running into the back of a player while he is unaware and vulnerable, tick. Spear tackle, tick.
                    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                    • josie
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 4577

                      #70
                      Re: MRP thread 2017

                      Great post Twodogs. And parents continue present trend of encouraging their kids to play soccer, not AFL. Soccer is now the sport that is the "most participated in" across Australia. Did anyone else see the second motion that looked awfully like sneaky forceful contact by Mumford on Libba whilst he was lying on top of Libba?
                      Last edited by josie; 01-05-2017, 07:43 PM. Reason: Forgot to mention Twodogs
                      Josie :)

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                      • Max469
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 568

                        #71
                        Re: MRP thread 2017

                        Originally posted by josie
                        Great post Twodogs. And parents continue present trend of encouraging their kids to play soccer, not AFL. Soccer is now the sport that is the "most participated in" across Australia. Did anyone else see the second motion that looked awfully like sneaky forceful contact by Mumford on Libba whilst he was lying on top of Libba?
                        He pushed his body into Libba with what looked like a lot of force. Dirty act from such a big man on a little bloke like Libba.

                        I have made a few comments about it at work today.
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                        • jeemak
                          Bulldog Legend
                          • Oct 2010
                          • 21986

                          #72
                          Re: MRP thread 2017

                          I though the initial Mumford tackle was made to look worse by the way Libba reacted to the tackle through flinging himself prior to the downward force being applied.

                          Mumford being the wanker he was realised he'd hit him hard, and did what he could to make an impact with his second crushing motion. If every big bloke took advantage of little blokes like that through the game then it would be a right shit of a sport for most.

                          It's just another piece of evidence to suggest GWS are the competition's wankers.
                          TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                          • The Doctor
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3704

                            #73
                            Re: MRP thread 2017

                            Greene should have got 4 weeks minimum for that thuggish and cowardly punch. Coming up from behind someone who was defenceless was as deliberate as anything I've seen. Thats what is called a coward punch in the street these days.

                            I can't believe idiots like Mark Fine and Kane Cornes are defending the flog.
                            Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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                            • soupman
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 5131

                              #74
                              Re: MRP thread 2017

                              Not impressed by Toby Greenes actions either, but Mumford was fine.

                              Much like the Ziebell bump, it was rougher than normal but is only looked at because there was an injury (fair enough) and neither were unfairly malicious. Footy has always wanted it's bumps and tackles to hurt and while the acceptable severity of that has been toned down a lot in the last decade neither of these particular actions were off the ball and the injuries sustained were bad luck.
                              I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                              • BornInDroopSt'54
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 5316

                                #75
                                Re: MRP thread 2017

                                Toby Greene hit Caleb with a one-two, like a good boxer. He hit him in the back of his head with his right, immediately followed by a left to the face. This indicates premeditation and reminds me of thugs I used to play with and against, one of whom said before game that he wanted "to get' his opponent from the last time. A thug.
                                Mumford should have been rubbed out regardless of which criterion. In terms of impact he concussed Libba. In terms of intent, he (and the umpires) must factor in that he is huge and his bulk and subsequent awkwardness means there are certain things he cannot do which most other players can do, such as tackle players to the ground with his full weight coming down on them. All giants of all clubs have a duty of care in this regard, so therefore do the judiciary in factoring in the big guys' bulk as responsible for injuries. Their immense weight as a factor in injuries and transgressions is a given so must be considered in protecting the player going for the ball. Mumford should not be allowed for example to sit down on anyone. Crivvens he could cripple someone.
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