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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 45017

    Re: The Chad Thread

    Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
    How many kids do we need? We are already the youngest list in the comp with West and Buku to come. I'd argue we are desperate for a quality 21-26 year old.

    On the flip side, we are unlikely to 'challenge' next year so from a forecasting perspective maybe we are better off taking Pick 6 to the draft, getting another year into our list and then look to trade for an established star at the end of next year.

    Arguments to be made for both.
    I thought our acquisition of Schache was a great move last year, he is a player with plenty of upside and young enough so that we can hopefully have a long career with us. It's why I'm more open to getting someone that has been in the system for a couple of years but still has his best football in front of him.
    Wingard is a very good player but he is a better option for us if we feel we can get back on track next year not in two or three years time.

    Wingard might be able to kick 40 goals for us which would be huge if we are going to be contenders next season.
    Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11439

      Re: The Chad Thread

      Originally posted by GVGjr
      Wingard is a very good player but he is a better option for us if we feel we can get back on track next year not in two or three years time.
      Both scenarios are not mutually exclusive - at 25yo, Wingard can impact both immediately and in 3+ years' time
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 67297

        Re: The Chad Thread

        Originally posted by Sedat
        Both scenarios are not mutually exclusive - at 25yo, Wingard can impact both immediately and in 3+ years' time
        We have to convince him we will be playing finals next year, otherwise why would he want to come to a club and wait for 3 years.
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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          Re: The Chad Thread

          Originally posted by bornadog
          We have to convince him we will be playing finals next year, otherwise why would he want to come to a club and wait for 3 years.
          Get him to read that thing by the preeminent afel journo, Barrett, last week. Dogs & Wingard = finals so he says. And I always believe him, so The Chad should too.
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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45017

            Re: The Chad Thread

            Originally posted by Sedat
            Both scenarios are not mutually exclusive - at 25yo, Wingard can impact both immediately and in 3+ years' time
            To me it's more about if we should be investing the big money contract into a player two or three years before we can become a genuine chance.
            If we believe we will be a genuine contender within 12 months then no problems but to me this is all about how we gauge our list and our chances for next season.

            We are coming from a fair way back and just need to have an honest assessment on where we actually are
            Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 45017

              Re: The Chad Thread

              Originally posted by bornadog
              We have to convince him we will be playing finals next year, otherwise why would he want to come to a club and wait for 3 years.
              That's the way I see it, we need to be confident that we are in a window where we will play some finals by 2020.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • Sedat
                Hall of Fame
                • Sep 2007
                • 11439

                Re: The Chad Thread

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                To me it's more about if we should be investing the big money contract into a player two or three years before we can become a genuine chance.
                If we believe we will be a genuine contender within 12 months then no problems but to me this is all about how we gauge our list and our chances for next season.

                We are coming from a fair way back and just need to have an honest assessment on where we actually are
                Agree wholeheartedly if Wingard was 28yo, but at his age he is a rolled gold investment for both the inmediate future and the long term
                "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                • Go_Dogs
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10209

                  Re: The Chad Thread

                  Originally posted by GVGjr
                  To me it's more about if we should be investing the big money contract into a player two or three years before we can become a genuine chance.
                  If we believe we will be a genuine contender within 12 months then no problems but to me this is all about how we gauge our list and our chances for next season.

                  We are coming from a fair way back and just need to have an honest assessment on where we actually are
                  Good call. We might also be better placed to wait (if we can't extend Bont now) so we can ensure we are well placed to offer him a contract he can't refuse.

                  I tend to believe we are a good chance to play finals next year and recruiting Wingard simply adds to that. We should however be live to the fact that players like Naughton, Richards, Williams etc may not have as impactful years so there's a chance we see a bit of a dip based on the output from a few younger players who had pretty solid campaigns.
                  Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                  • EasternWest
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 10033

                    Re: The Chad Thread

                    Originally posted by Go_Dogs
                    if we can't extend Bont
                    I've learnt to emotionally dissociate myself from connection to players, but if this were to happen I'd give up footy.

                    Some wounds run too deep.
                    "It's over. It's all over."

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                    • The Pie Man
                      Coaching Staff
                      • May 2008
                      • 3500

                      Re: The Chad Thread

                      Watching Fox Footy for the first time in quite some time - getting the feeling this Wingard thing has fizzled out.
                      Float Along - Fill Your Lungs

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                      • Remi Moses
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 14785

                        Re: The Chad Thread

                        This just reeks of Wingard wanting port to pony up more cash with a new contract .
                        I’m neither here nor there, as Hurley did the exact same thing

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                        • Dancin' Douggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 2876

                          Re: The Chad Thread

                          Happy to keep the pick

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21991

                            Re: The Chad Thread

                            Originally posted by Remi Moses
                            This just reeks of Wingard wanting port to pony up more cash with a new contract .
                            I’m neither here nor there, as Hurley did the exact same thing
                            Not an unreasonable summary, though I think with Hurley he may have genuinely been on the hook and extenuating circumstances surrounding salary cap leniency yanked him from it.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 67297

                              Re: The Chad Thread

                              Originally posted by The Pie Man
                              Watching Fox Footy for the first time in quite some time - getting the feeling this Wingard thing has fizzled out.
                              If you were watching AFL360 , it was Robbo who said Wingard is going nowhere, however his manager refuted the claim. Robbo being stubborn, obviously is continuing on with it/
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                              • EasternWest
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10033

                                Re: The Chad Thread

                                Originally posted by Remi Moses
                                This just reeks of Wingard wanting port to pony up more cash with a new contract .
                                I’m neither here nor there, as Hurley did the exact same thing
                                Doesn't he still have a year on his current contract?

                                Good to have you back too, Remi.
                                "It's over. It's all over."

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