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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65597

    Re: Hawthorn racism review

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    I've read through the emails in the article. It doesn't reflect well on the club.
    Newbold is lying about not seeing emails.
    FFC: Established 1883

    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34316

      Re: Hawthorn racism review

      Originally posted by bornadog
      These blokes should never be allowed to work in any sporting organisation again. The sooner the better for all. This violates human rights. Unbelievable stuff.

      Sounds like Robbo has a copy of the full report.
      And as an experienced journo, he’s going to drip feed out the worst parts of it. I’ve a feeling this is about to get really messy as public pressure builds after every story he drops with a new angle. Robbo better expect the AFEL to as good as black bam him. But if Robbo does this right, it could be his legacy.

      Yesterday a coach, name withheld
      Today, Newbold
      Tomorrow…
      The next day…
      The next day…
      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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      • Axe Man
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 10866

        Re: Hawthorn racism review

        Originally posted by bornadog
        These blokes should never be allowed to work in any sporting organisation again. The sooner the better for all. This violates human rights. Unbelievable stuff.

        Sounds like Robbo has a copy of the full report.
        The Herald Sun have clearly stated they have the full report.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 43892

          Re: Hawthorn racism review

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Newbold is lying about not seeing emails.
          You know that for a fact or is this your way of saying it's hard to believe he didn't know about the emails?
          Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 65597

            Re: Hawthorn racism review

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            The Herald Sun have clearly stated they have the full report.
            thanks didn't know, I don't have access

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            You know that for a fact or is this your way of saying it's hard to believe he didn't know about the emails?
            latter
            FFC: Established 1883

            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • Bulldog4life
              WOOF Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 9607

              Re: Hawthorn racism review

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Newbold is lying about not seeing emails.
              Yep he is reading from the Trump play book. Deny, deny and deny again.

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              • josie
                Coaching Staff
                • Oct 2012
                • 4336

                Re: Hawthorn racism review

                Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                Wow.
                I'd like to say thanks to Josh Dunkley for making his departure that much more palatable for me.. In what should've been an otherwise a simple leave outside off to the keeper when asked about the Fagan dilemma, he's had a big waft at it and in one stroke revealed what a complete self-absorbed nothingburger he is... to not be able to read the lay of the football landscape right now and , if incapable of showing or verbalising some empathy, at least display some awareness and shut the hell up...

                What a flog. Seeya
                My new fave word “nothingburger”. Thanks YHF. Dunks strikes me as a self absorbed type. Will not be missed by many.
                Josie :)

                Our day will come
                And we'll have everything.
                We'll share the joy
                Just like '54 again.

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34316

                  Re: Hawthorn racism review

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Newbold is lying about not seeing emails.
                  What triggers my BS detector is when people simply don’t deny it, quickly and firmly. Worse yet is when an accusatory question, is answered with a question in kind. It’s my dead giveaway that I’m being lied to, I read into that an attempt at distraction by moving attention to another question. Taught in Harvard (from South Park) ‘The Chewbacca Defence’. Now, since Robbo asked the question I can’t say it. But this is an answer from Newbold:

                  “It paints me in a certain light which is not the case. It’s not how I deal with people. The other thing is, why would I send an email like that from my Iphone?”


                  The original Chewbacca Defence:

                  Johnie Cochran:

                  …ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!

                  Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a major record company, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests”


                  Answer: Newbold:

                  “It paints me in a certain light which is not the case. It’s not how I deal with people. The other thing is, why would I send an email like that from my Iphone?”


                  Does Apple not allow emails like that to be sent in IOS4? Can Wookies not use iPhones? Did Endor even have 3G signal then. It doesn’t make sense. It does not make sense. You must acquit!
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 65597

                    Re: Hawthorn racism review

                    FFC: Established 1883

                    Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 65597

                      Re: Hawthorn racism review

                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Grantysghost
                        Bouncing Strong
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 18722

                        Re: Hawthorn racism review

                        Airplane mode with your WiFi on?

                        You're entering uncharted waters bad
                        BT COME BACK!​

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 65597

                          Re: Hawthorn racism review

                          Originally posted by Grantysghost
                          Airplane mode with your WiFi on?

                          You're entering uncharted waters bad
                          Not mine, Sam Edmund
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11727

                            Re: Hawthorn racism review

                            Interesting that there aren't specific refutations. They read specific but the language can be applied pretty generally.

                            I didn't behave in the manner being presented could mean yeah I did all that stuff but because I really cared about the players not because I'm a big meany.

                            My memory of the matters reported is very different could mean anything depending on what you consider to mean very different. We 'suggested' he abandon his pregnant partner and move in with a coach if he felt it was the best thing for his career. There were only light tears when he was packing his belongings and so on.
                            [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 65597

                              Re: Hawthorn racism review

                              Originally posted by hujsh
                              Interesting that there aren't specific refutations. They read specific but the language can be applied pretty generally.

                              I didn't behave in the manner being presented could mean yeah I did all that stuff but because I really cared about the players not because I'm a big meany.

                              My memory of the matters reported is very different could mean anything depending on what you consider to mean very different. We 'suggested' he abandon his pregnant partner and move in with a coach if he felt it was the best thing for his career. There were only light tears when he was packing his belongings and so on.
                              I think written by a lawyer. You have to wonder why he would put out a statement
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • Bulldog4life
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 9607

                                Re: Hawthorn racism review

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                I think written by a lawyer. You have to wonder why he would put out a statement
                                I thought he already had. So this is his second statement. I think.

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